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Re: [Avid-L2] Odd behavior in Mac OS Sonoma 14.0 trying to setup multiple StartUp Drives?

Ok, here is the article I was thinking about. 

https://bombich.com/kb/ccc6/help-my-clone-wont-boot

Not sure if this addresses your specific issue.
Jef

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Re: [Avid-L2] Odd behavior in Mac OS Sonoma 14.0 trying to setup multiple StartUp Drives?

I forget the details, but Carbon Copy Cloner has a big blog post about issues like this and why it has gotten very difficult to make bootable external drives.  Thanks Apple.

I will try to find the link to that article.
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Re: [Avid-L2] Odd behavior in Mac OS Sonoma 14.0 trying to setup multiple StartUp Drives?

Same here. We've been using the Migration Utility.

On Jan 17, 2024, at 6:40 AM, Jeffrey Lomicka <jeff@jncquilts.com> wrote:

"Boot volume" is now plural under these new OSes with APFS.  At a lower level, you get the regular volume, and the "- Data" volume.

I gave up on CCC years ago in favor of "SuperDuper!".  I just finished an internal SSD upgrade on a Mac Cylinder and copying bootable APFS images around with "SuperDuper!" was trivial, even between drives of different sizes. It knows all about this dual volume thing and re-creates it on the target drive.

Re: [Avid-L2] Odd behavior in Mac OS Sonoma 14.0 trying to setup multiple StartUp Drives?

"Boot volume" is now plural under these new OSes with APFS.  At a lower level, you get the regular volume, and the "- Data" volume.

I gave up on CCC years ago in favor of "SuperDuper!".  I just finished an internal SSD upgrade on a Mac Cylinder and copying bootable APFS images around with "SuperDuper!" was trivial, even between drives of different sizes. It knows all about this dual volume thing and re-creates it on the target drive.

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Re: [Avid-L2] Odd behavior in Mac OS Sonoma 14.0 trying to setup multiple StartUp Drives?

Okay so why when I create an APFS partion or a volume and then carbon copy clone back to it why is it not then seen as an APFS boot volume?

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Re: [Avid-L2] Odd behavior in Mac OS Sonoma 14.0 trying to setup multiple StartUp Drives?

Only APFS boot volumes are supported on these. 

On Jan 16, 2024, at 7:50 PM, John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net> wrote:

Playing around on my new macstudio and I originally Carbon Copy Clones the initial startup to an HFS+ spinning hard drive.  I've done this before with APFS startup drives.  Today I partioned the internal Startup drive into two and Carbon Copy Cloned the initial CCC BU onto the newly created partition.  I tried both adding a partion and adding a volume to the group.  Unfortunately when I CCC'd back from the BU the macstudio doesn't see the new partion as a startup drive.  I've also got my spinning hard drive BU's mounted to the rear usb 3 port and they aren't seen as viable startup drives.  I did the hold down power button on startup but no matter what I do I can't get the macstudio to see anything other than the original internal startup drive.  This use to work on my 10.14.6 and earlier systems and I checked and I have the latest version of CCC. 

What am I missing in my CCC BU process.  Could it be because I'm CCCing to non APFS volumes?  That didn't stop things from working in my past.  Is there a secret handshake to get a second startup partion in Sonoma and maybe some of the other new Mac OSs?

John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

[Avid-L2] Odd behavior in Mac OS Sonoma 14.0 trying to setup multiple StartUp Drives?

Playing around on my new macstudio and I originally Carbon Copy Clones the initial startup to an HFS+ spinning hard drive.  I've done this before with APFS startup drives.  Today I partioned the internal Startup drive into two and Carbon Copy Cloned the initial CCC BU onto the newly created partition.  I tried both adding a partion and adding a volume to the group.  Unfortunately when I CCC'd back from the BU the macstudio doesn't see the new partion as a startup drive.  I've also got my spinning hard drive BU's mounted to the rear usb 3 port and they aren't seen as viable startup drives.  I did the hold down power button on startup but no matter what I do I can't get the macstudio to see anything other than the original internal startup drive.  This use to work on my 10.14.6 and earlier systems and I checked and I have the latest version of CCC. 

What am I missing in my CCC BU process.  Could it be because I'm CCCing to non APFS volumes?  That didn't stop things from working in my past.  Is there a secret handshake to get a second startup partion in Sonoma and maybe some of the other new Mac OSs?

John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net