Saturday, August 19, 2017

Re: [Avid-L2] Favorite mac encoder these days?

 

9.99 version is playback only.  The $119 and $499 version can fix stuff

On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 8:21 PM Dennis Degan DennyD1@verizon.net [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 


Jeff:

Telestream's 'Switch' will allow you to remap audio tracks as well for  $9.99.

Dennis Degan, Video Editor-Consultant-Knowledge Bank
    NBC Today Show, New York


On Aug 18, 2017, at 5:08 PM, Jeff Hedberg wrote:

Thanks for the suggestion. I'll check it out.
Jeff

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575 Broadway,6th floor
New York, NY 10012

On Aug 17, 2017, at 9:07 PM, bigfish@pacbell.net [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

That is a constant pain in my world too.  I have to reorder audio and make a separate QT ref etc...  I would suggest videotoolshed's Audio Map.  It will convert interleaved to individual mono tracks in a few minutes for a 44 minute ish show and you can remap.  It has save my arse on several time sensitive occasions.



---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <jeff@...> wrote :

I'm a fan of episode as well. However, you can't purchase it anymore. Which is sad. It can do some things for us that AME can't...  8 audio channel input file, remap channels 7 and 8 to 1 and 2 and call them a single stereo track. Granted, pretty specific... but used daily here. For other stuff we use AME (Adobe Media Encoder)

Jeff

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Posted by Video Geek Squad at 5:28 PM 0 comments

Re: [Avid-L2] Favorite mac encoder these days?

 


Jeff:

Telestream's 'Switch' will allow you to remap audio tracks as well for  $9.99.

Dennis Degan, Video Editor-Consultant-Knowledge Bank
    NBC Today Show, New York

On Aug 18, 2017, at 5:08 PM, Jeff Hedberg wrote:

Thanks for the suggestion. I'll check it out.
Jeff

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Director of Operations
Union Editorial
575 Broadway,6th floor
New York, NY 10012

On Aug 17, 2017, at 9:07 PM, bigfish@pacbell.net [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

That is a constant pain in my world too.  I have to reorder audio and make a separate QT ref etc...  I would suggest videotoolshed's Audio Map.  It will convert interleaved to individual mono tracks in a few minutes for a 44 minute ish show and you can remap.  It has save my arse on several time sensitive occasions.



---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <jeff@...> wrote :

I'm a fan of episode as well. However, you can't purchase it anymore. Which is sad. It can do some things for us that AME can't...  8 audio channel input file, remap channels 7 and 8 to 1 and 2 and call them a single stereo track. Granted, pretty specific... but used daily here. For other stuff we use AME (Adobe Media Encoder)

Jeff

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Have you tried the highest rated email app?
With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an email again with 1000GB of free cloud storage.
this is the Avid-L2

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Friday, August 18, 2017

Re: [Avid-L2] Do I really need my NITRIS DX?

 

Love the experience of editing with those Avid branded boxes - none of the "rubber" feeling you get from most 3rd party cards.

Got hold of a Mojo DX, works as well as the Nitris for monitoring and is quiet. So the Nitris is going.,,
https://www.leboncoin.fr/image_son/1145878136.htm
It's not like buyers are fighting over it though.

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Posted by Video Geek Squad at 10:28 PM 0 comments

Re: [Avid-L2] Favorite mac encoder these days?

 

Thanks for the suggestion. I'll check it out.

Jeff

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Jeff Hedberg

Director of Operations
Union Editorial
575 Broadway,6th floor
New York, NY 10012

On Aug 17, 2017, at 9:07 PM, bigfish@pacbell.net [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

That is a constant pain in my world too.  I have to reorder audio and make a separate QT ref etc...  I would suggest videotoolshed's Audio Map.  It will convert interleaved to individual mono tracks in a few minutes for a 44 minute ish show and you can remap.  It has save my arse on several time sensitive occasions.



---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <jeff@...> wrote :

I'm a fan of episode as well. However, you can't purchase it anymore. Which is sad. It can do some things for us that AME can't...  8 audio channel input file, remap channels 7 and 8 to 1 and 2 and call them a single stereo track. Granted, pretty specific... but used daily here. For other stuff we use AME (Adobe Media Encoder)

Jeff

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Jeff Hedberg

Director of Operations
Union Editorial
575 Broadway,6th floor
New York, NY 10012

On Aug 17, 2017, at 2:06 PM, Sol Fischler sol.fischler@... [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Episode does have a deinterlacing option that I use with good results for my mp4's, but yes, experiment to see if it fits your needs.
Episode, not Encore...   :-)
 -------------------------------------------------Sol FischlerEditor: Image & Sound914-525-2579www.solfischler.com

From: "hoplist@... [Avid-L2]" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
To: Avid-L2-yahoogroups.com <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>; Dan McCabe <danlist@...> 
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Favorite mac encoder these days?

   Assuming you are making MP4's at moderate bitrates (2+Mbps), almost anything will do. MP4 codecs are highly refined. I happen to use Encoder mostly. I get slightly different results between Encoder and Compressor, but I can't see that either is better. I stopped using Sorenson when I saw that it was altering gamma significantly on my MP2s. That was a VERY long time ago and I've never gone back.
If for some reason you are making MP2's, then I'm not a fan of any of those. I use TMPEGEnc (now Video Masterworks) from Pegasys on Windows for MP2 except for DVD spec elements at 7-9Mbps. In that case, I use Compressor. If it looks bad I go to TMPEGEnc. It's actually the only thing I still use Windows for. It does a good job with MP4 as well. I never tried to install TMPEGEnc in a virtual machine on a Mac, but I considered it. I believe it would work, especially if you have an nVidia card.
I also like Handbrake if it is more convenient. I generally do this only to go from MKV (Encoder does not like) or directly from encoded disc. 
By the way, the big three are all pretty crappy at deinterlacing with Encoder arguably the worst. I still struggle with deinterlacing. Oddly Handbrake is pretty good, but not at it's defaults. Fortunately I don't have to deinterlace very often. When I do, it generally requires some experimentation.
cheers,                tod

On Aug 17, 2017, at 10:49 AM, Dan McCabe danlist@... [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
It has been awhile since I last checked out the options for encoding. 

I tend to export a QT Reference and then encode outside the AVID.

Assuming Mac only, any opinions on Squeeze vs Compresser vs Adobe Media
Encoder (vs Handbrake or anything else?)

Mostly I am making screeners of cuts from a 10.10.5 Mid-2014 MBP to post
for client review.

Thanks for any advice!

Dan

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Posted by Video Geek Squad at 2:08 PM 0 comments

Re: [Avid-L2] Do I really need my NITRIS DX?

 


BMD doesn't have 5.1 over HDMI sorted out (wrong channel order). This is addressed on the Avid-branded versions of the BMD hardware (DNxIO and DNxIQ).

AJA does seem to have more robust drivers etc. So I got the T-Tap (and now have a spare BMD mini).

Like you, when the time comes, I don't think I'll replace my Nitris DX with a similar box with lots of I/O.


i disconnected my Nitris DX.  We had a Blackmagic Design UltraStudio Mini Monitor laying around.

hooked it up... works flawlessly so far.  I get output to SDI and HDMI with full format crossconvert options.

this sells on B&H for $137... why do i need anything else

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Posted by Video Geek Squad at 8:18 AM 0 comments

Re: [Avid-L2] Favorite mac encoder these days?

 


Adobe Media Encoder automatically deinterlaces for progressive outputs. 

Yes, it does. It's just not the greatest. After Effects is commonly considered one of the better software deinterlacers and the best of the Adobe suite. For my last project, where I had many interlaced SD source shots, I compared several paths in Adobe, including After Effects. I followed several recommended recipes, and then compared the best results (After Effects) to Handbrake with optimized settings. Handbrake gave me better results. It took about a dozen tests to find those optimized settings, but they were slightly better than After Effects. And still not as good as could be achieved. 

My experience using hardware (mostly AJA Kona 3) are better, but using hardware to scale files requires round-tripping to tape, which is impractical for me. 

I've also had very peculiar problems with hardware deinterlacing and scaling on input. It looks great, as long as the footage does not require further processing. But on the last project where I did this, scaling this footage a bit further (which the card can't do), resulted in a bizarre and completely unacceptable moire pattern in the footage. I have no idea why, but I had to fall back to software deinterlacing. This was depressing.

So, I'm still looking for software scaling that can rival hardware scaling. It should be possible. After all, what happens in hardware is ultimately just a software process. But...

Cheers,
            tod



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Posted by Video Geek Squad at 6:14 AM 0 comments

Thursday, August 17, 2017

[Avid-L2] Re: Do I really need my NITRIS DX?

 

quick update...


i disconnected my Nitris DX.  We had a Blackmagic Design UltraStudio Mini Monitor laying around.

hooked it up... works flawlessly so far.  I get output to SDI and HDMI with full format crossconvert options.

this sells on B&H for $137... why do i need anything else
 

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this is the Avid-L2

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Posted by Video Geek Squad at 6:12 PM 0 comments

Re: [Avid-L2] Favorite mac encoder these days?

 

That is a constant pain in my world too.  I have to reorder audio and make a separate QT ref etc...  I would suggest videotoolshed's Audio Map.  It will convert interleaved to individual mono tracks in a few minutes for a 44 minute ish show and you can remap.  It has save my arse on several time sensitive occasions.



---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <jeff@...> wrote :

I'm a fan of episode as well. However, you can't purchase it anymore. Which is sad. It can do some things for us that AME can't...  8 audio channel input file, remap channels 7 and 8 to 1 and 2 and call them a single stereo track. Granted, pretty specific... but used daily here. For other stuff we use AME (Adobe Media Encoder)

Jeff

------------------
Jeff Hedberg

Director of Operations
Union Editorial
575 Broadway,6th floor
New York, NY 10012

On Aug 17, 2017, at 2:06 PM, Sol Fischler sol.fischler@... [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Episode does have a deinterlacing option that I use with good results for my mp4's, but yes, experiment to see if it fits your needs.
Episode, not Encore...   :-)
 -------------------------------------------------Sol FischlerEditor: Image & Sound914-525-2579www.solfischler.com

From: "hoplist@... [Avid-L2]" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
To: Avid-L2-yahoogroups.com <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>; Dan McCabe <danlist@...> 
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Favorite mac encoder these days?

   Assuming you are making MP4's at moderate bitrates (2+Mbps), almost anything will do. MP4 codecs are highly refined. I happen to use Encoder mostly. I get slightly different results between Encoder and Compressor, but I can't see that either is better. I stopped using Sorenson when I saw that it was altering gamma significantly on my MP2s. That was a VERY long time ago and I've never gone back.
If for some reason you are making MP2's, then I'm not a fan of any of those. I use TMPEGEnc (now Video Masterworks) from Pegasys on Windows for MP2 except for DVD spec elements at 7-9Mbps. In that case, I use Compressor. If it looks bad I go to TMPEGEnc. It's actually the only thing I still use Windows for. It does a good job with MP4 as well. I never tried to install TMPEGEnc in a virtual machine on a Mac, but I considered it. I believe it would work, especially if you have an nVidia card.
I also like Handbrake if it is more convenient. I generally do this only to go from MKV (Encoder does not like) or directly from encoded disc. 
By the way, the big three are all pretty crappy at deinterlacing with Encoder arguably the worst. I still struggle with deinterlacing. Oddly Handbrake is pretty good, but not at it's defaults. Fortunately I don't have to deinterlace very often. When I do, it generally requires some experimentation.
cheers,                tod

On Aug 17, 2017, at 10:49 AM, Dan McCabe danlist@... [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
It has been awhile since I last checked out the options for encoding. 

I tend to export a QT Reference and then encode outside the AVID.

Assuming Mac only, any opinions on Squeeze vs Compresser vs Adobe Media
Encoder (vs Handbrake or anything else?)

Mostly I am making screeners of cuts from a 10.10.5 Mid-2014 MBP to post
for client review.

Thanks for any advice!

Dan

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