Saturday, August 29, 2015

Re: [Avid-L2] Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB acting very problematic on Reconditioned MacPro 2010?

 

I actually had my system drive fail last week and replaced it with this 850 in 2010 Mac Pro. 

My process was to restore the system to an older drive I had around through time machine. Then I cloned that older drive to the 850 via USB3. I then installed it into the bay above the DVD drive. I have had no issues churning on it since Saturday. I guess I skirted the issue you had. 

I saw the firmware you saw, too and decided to avoid it since the 850 wasn't listed. 

Not sure if I've been helpful other than confirming the workaround indeed works. 

Kedor

Sent from iKedor mini

On Aug 29, 2015, at 17:48, John Moore bigfish@pacbell.net [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

I few weeks back I mention some issues we were having installing Avid 6.5.4.6 on my new reconditioned MacPro 2010 with 12 core 2x6 3.33Ghz.  The Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB is mounted on a shuttle and is in the bay 1 of the MacPro.  With OS 10.7.5 we could not get Avid to launch.  After some research others had the same problem.  The solution/workaround was to upgrade to 10.8.5 and then Avid would boot.

Now I'm finding that when starting up on the SSD drive after starting up on some of the other HDD start up drives many of the HDD appear offline and it asks to initialize.  I can repair the drives with disk Utility and get them to mount.  I had solid boots for about 3 days with all drives showing up.  Today I installed the Sony  XD Cam U2 driver like our other Avid systems have.  After that a bunch of the internal HDDs went offline.  Disk utility repaired and remounted them.  In the case of the first partition of a 4TB Deskstar NAS I had to verify just that partition before mounting it then I could repair that partition as "repair" was greyed out for that partition until I verified and mounted it.  All the other HDDs including a 2 drive striped internal raid will just let me repair and mount.  Only that first partion on the solo HDD that has 10 partitions requires the verify.  Now when I reboot on the SSD the first partition is always unmounted and requires the verify process.

When this is going on if I restart to the carbon copy clone of the SSD all drive mount reliably for 3 reboots.  It really seems like something about the Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB is wreaking havoc as a startup drive.  I'm wondering if it were installed up in the 2nd optical bay if that would have any effect on it's reliability?  I am now going to take the SSD and Carbon Copy clone it to a virgin partition on the solo HDD that is mac os extended journaled with the proper GUID stuff and see if that will reliably boot.  I seem to recall some people not liking the Samsung SSDs but I don't remember the specifics of their issues.

Anybody have any suggestions/experience with these SSDs?

I did some googling and found this:

Your drives are most likely working as Samsung intended.  I'm currently upgrading several MacBook Pros for coworkers, and ran into this problem.  It will neither format nor install via the internal SATA.  The workaround is to connect the drive via external USB.  From there you can partition/format/install to the drive.  After you're done, you can install it.
 
However, if you ever plan to erase & install, you'll have to take it out and connect it externally all over again.
 
From what I gather, Samsung does have Mac specific firmwares for their 830 and 840 series SSDs.  Descriptions says it addresses compatibility issues, which we're seeing here.  The 850 is brand new, so perhaps they'll release the Mac firmware soon so you don't have to jump through hoops to get it to work.
 
 
John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

__._,_.___

Posted by: Michael Kedor <mikedor@gmail.com>
Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (3)
this is the Avid-L2

.

__,_._,___

Re: [Avid-L2] Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB acting very problematic on Reconditioned MacPro 2010?

 

I have 2 SSDs with my MBP, a Sandisk and a Samsung 840 EVO. Both are working great. The 840 EVO does have the firmware read bug but your 850 does not have that bug.

Have you tried running permission repair while in Recovery mode?

Also out of topic... I assume you have a TRIM utility active for your SSD?



Dom Q. Silverio

On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 8:48 PM, John Moore bigfish@pacbell.net [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


I few weeks back I mention some issues we were having installing Avid 6.5.4.6 on my new reconditioned MacPro 2010 with 12 core 2x6 3.33Ghz.  The Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB is mounted on a shuttle and is in the bay 1 of the MacPro.  With OS 10.7.5 we could not get Avid to launch.  After some research others had the same problem.  The solution/workaround was to upgrade to 10.8.5 and then Avid would boot.

Now I'm finding that when starting up on the SSD drive after starting up on some of the other HDD start up drives many of the HDD appear offline and it asks to initialize.  I can repair the drives with disk Utility and get them to mount.  I had solid boots for about 3 days with all drives showing up.  Today I installed the Sony  XD Cam U2 driver like our other Avid systems have.  After that a bunch of the internal HDDs went offline.  Disk utility repaired and remounted them.  In the case of the first partition of a 4TB Deskstar NAS I had to verify just that partition before mounting it then I could repair that partition as "repair" was greyed out for that partition until I verified and mounted it.  All the other HDDs including a 2 drive striped internal raid will just let me repair and mount.  Only that first partion on the solo HDD that has 10 partitions requires the verify.  Now when I reboot on the SSD the first partition is always unmounted and requires the verify process.

When this is going on if I restart to the carbon copy clone of the SSD all drive mount reliably for 3 reboots.  It really seems like something about the Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB is wreaking havoc as a startup drive.  I'm wondering if it were installed up in the 2nd optical bay if that would have any effect on it's reliability?  I am now going to take the SSD and Carbon Copy clone it to a virgin partition on the solo HDD that is mac os extended journaled with the proper GUID stuff and see if that will reliably boot.  I seem to recall some people not liking the Samsung SSDs but I don't remember the specifics of their issues.

Anybody have any suggestions/experience with these SSDs?

I did some googling and found this:

Your drives are most likely working as Samsung intended.  I'm currently upgrading several MacBook Pros for coworkers, and ran into this problem.  It will neither format nor install via the internal SATA.  The workaround is to connect the drive via external USB.  From there you can partition/format/install to the drive.  After you're done, you can install it.
 
However, if you ever plan to erase & install, you'll have to take it out and connect it externally all over again.
 
From what I gather, Samsung does have Mac specific firmwares for their 830 and 840 series SSDs.  Descriptions says it addresses compatibility issues, which we're seeing here.  The 850 is brand new, so perhaps they'll release the Mac firmware soon so you don't have to jump through hoops to get it to work.
 
 
John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net



__._,_.___

Posted by: "Dom Q. Silverio" <domqsilverio@gmail.com>
Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (2)
this is the Avid-L2

.

__,_._,___

[Avid-L2] Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB acting very problematic on Reconditioned MacPro 2010?

 

I few weeks back I mention some issues we were having installing Avid 6.5.4.6 on my new reconditioned MacPro 2010 with 12 core 2x6 3.33Ghz.  The Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB is mounted on a shuttle and is in the bay 1 of the MacPro.  With OS 10.7.5 we could not get Avid to launch.  After some research others had the same problem.  The solution/workaround was to upgrade to 10.8.5 and then Avid would boot.

Now I'm finding that when starting up on the SSD drive after starting up on some of the other HDD start up drives many of the HDD appear offline and it asks to initialize.  I can repair the drives with disk Utility and get them to mount.  I had solid boots for about 3 days with all drives showing up.  Today I installed the Sony  XD Cam U2 driver like our other Avid systems have.  After that a bunch of the internal HDDs went offline.  Disk utility repaired and remounted them.  In the case of the first partition of a 4TB Deskstar NAS I had to verify just that partition before mounting it then I could repair that partition as "repair" was greyed out for that partition until I verified and mounted it.  All the other HDDs including a 2 drive striped internal raid will just let me repair and mount.  Only that first partion on the solo HDD that has 10 partitions requires the verify.  Now when I reboot on the SSD the first partition is always unmounted and requires the verify process.

When this is going on if I restart to the carbon copy clone of the SSD all drive mount reliably for 3 reboots.  It really seems like something about the Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB is wreaking havoc as a startup drive.  I'm wondering if it were installed up in the 2nd optical bay if that would have any effect on it's reliability?  I am now going to take the SSD and Carbon Copy clone it to a virgin partition on the solo HDD that is mac os extended journaled with the proper GUID stuff and see if that will reliably boot.  I seem to recall some people not liking the Samsung SSDs but I don't remember the specifics of their issues.

Anybody have any suggestions/experience with these SSDs?

I did some googling and found this:

Your drives are most likely working as Samsung intended.  I'm currently upgrading several MacBook Pros for coworkers, and ran into this problem.  It will neither format nor install via the internal SATA.  The workaround is to connect the drive via external USB.  From there you can partition/format/install to the drive.  After you're done, you can install it.
 
However, if you ever plan to erase & install, you'll have to take it out and connect it externally all over again.
 
From what I gather, Samsung does have Mac specific firmwares for their 830 and 840 series SSDs.  Descriptions says it addresses compatibility issues, which we're seeing here.  The 850 is brand new, so perhaps they'll release the Mac firmware soon so you don't have to jump through hoops to get it to work.
 
 
John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

__._,_.___

Posted by: John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net>
Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (1)
this is the Avid-L2

.

__,_._,___

[Avid-L2] Tracking Dots disappear or become obscured when Effects window is scaled?

 

Here's a quirky one.  I'm on a new reconditioned MacPro 2010 with 12 core 2x6 Core 3.33GHz.  I think it's the typical ATI Radeon Video Card.  Running Ver. 6.5.4.7.

I imported a matte key and did a 4 point track.  I found out later I can only use 3 total tracking points for a matte key but that's not the issue.  What I found was when I went into single large window Effects mode with the exception of the first frame tracking markers with the box and target X the rest of the tracking dots would disappear.  They were there but could not be seen.  I later found that if I stayed in normal effects mode that the dots were visable.  I then dragged the bottom right corner to enlarge the normal screen and could see at a certain scaling the dots would disappear.  If I leave the effect window smaller and blow up the image inside it I can see the dots to a point but then as the dots move right in the screen they start to get cropped, I can see the center dot but the surrounding circle starts to appear cropped from the right side, and as the dot moves further to the right eventually the cropping completely eleminates the dot.

At the point of the dot disappearing if I shrink the internal zoom of the screen the dot reappears and if I then drag the screen image to the left, and perhaps to the right but I've only tried to the left, I can then rezoom in on the screen and the dot will be visible.  Then after more frames the same thing will occur rinse and repeat.  I think I've seen this issue happen before but never found out how to get them to reappear without restarting Avid.  In hind sight I think in the past restarting Avid just resized the Effects monitor screen to normal so the dots reappeared.

I've never experienced an issue with a graphics card driver with Avid on a Mac but could that be something at play here.

Now that I'm typing this it dawns on me that the limitation of only being able to use two trackers for scale and one for postition in an imported matte key might be something that would change if I promoted the matte key to a 3D matte key.  I just tried this on my home system and in it does work.  I also stumbled on the ability to have more than 4 trackers.  I've never thought about that.  I generally use the tracker enable buttons in the corner tracker to create up to 4 trackers but with 8 choices for trackers in the promoted Matte Key effect I can now add up to 8 trackers in the tracking window and access the last 4 with the scroll bar to the right of the trackers.  I never noticed the scroll bar before either.  Perhaps it only appears when there are more than 4 trackers. 

Well this is something new to play with but I don't look forward to have 8 diappearing tracker dots to contend with when I zoom in or scale the effects window.
 
John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net

__._,_.___

Posted by: John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net>
Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (1)
this is the Avid-L2

.

__,_._,___

Re: [Avid-L2] BWF TRK info in the timeline, who wants it?

 

And me.

__._,_.___

Posted by: yardley.david@yahoo.com
Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (6)
this is the Avid-L2

.

__,_._,___

Re: [Avid-L2] BWF TRK info in the timeline, who wants it?

 

ME!

On 27 aug. 2015, at 16:19, 'Edit B' bouke@editb.nl [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

>
> Who of you would like to see the TRK info in the timeline?

__._,_.___

Posted by: "Job ter Burg (L2B)" <Job_L2@terburg.com>
Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (5)
this is the Avid-L2

.

__,_._,___

Friday, August 28, 2015

[Avid-L2] AE for pilot in LA, Union position

 

Passing another one along:


"Looking for a A+ AE for a scripted union pilot that starts in 2 weeks. Must be excellent on Avid, sound effects, music, VFX. Huge TV experience a plus. Email me ASAP info@filmsinfocus.com"

 

__._,_.___

Posted by: tcurren@aol.com
Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (1)
this is the Avid-L2

.

__,_._,___

[Avid-L2] End of summer party @ Editor's Lounge

 

TUNE IN FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 25 AT 6:30 PM FOR THE NEXT EDITORS' LOUNGE:

So Long, Summer!
Come Chill With Us and Celebrate the End of Summer

It's time to unwind for a moment and enjoy the last days of summer. The next Editors' Lounge won't feature any demonstrations or discussions, just a Friday evening for hanging out with your peers.

So stop on by for some old-school networking.


Bring your favorite beverage, we'll provide something to eat. Drink responsibly! The Lounge opens at 6:30 PM, presentations begin at 7 PM. It's important to RSVP if you wish to attend. If you've RSVP'd but then cannot attend for any reason, please contact us right away so we can give your spot to someone else. We reserve the right to revoke attendance privileges at any time.


__._,_.___

Posted by: tcurren@aol.com
Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (1)
this is the Avid-L2

.

__,_._,___

[Avid-L2] Re: 29.97p Digital Cut issues in Symphony 8

 

For what it's worth HDcam SR records as PSF noit true P. You can output 59.94I and set the deck to progressive and it will appear as prrogressive on tape. Not sure what is causing the crash. I have 8.3.1 at home but haven't output to tape. I habve most definately output from a 29.97P project to HDCam 29.97 prf from 6.5.x.

__._,_.___

Posted by: bigfish@pacbell.net
Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (4)
this is the Avid-L2

.

__,_._,___

[Avid-L2] Re: 29.97p Digital Cut issues in Symphony 8

 

Yea, for the projects I deliver in 59.94i, I've had to copy the SEQ into a 60i project with a 60i seq and everything works fine on the DIGITAL CUT.
Unfortunately, I have some coming up that have to deliver 29.97p.
Haven't had an issue with this before until I updated to 8. We shoot in 29.97p, and keep it as such until delivery, then we use Avid's Universal Mastering to convert on the fly to tap based on delivery specs.
Media is shared on ISIS, but that was never an issue before.
The only constant I can find so far, is that it is within 29.97p projects and sequences.

__._,_.___

Posted by: shawn_pinner@yahoo.com
Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (3)
this is the Avid-L2

.

__,_._,___

RE: [Avid-L2] Re: More XD Cam ?s with XD Direct Batch Import requires Legacy XD Cam off but decompose requires it ON?

 

Here's what differs for me in testing.  You say:

"1)with legacy import mode on, select the mxf's in the clip folder and import them to a temp workspace, adding a disklabel in the import dialog box
2)add tape IDs to the imported clips with the post house's barcode ID so the clips can be identified for batch import"

When I try to do this with legacy on I am presented with a box that says something to the effect,"Disk String Required, I can't remember the actual prompt and I'm not at the system now.  At this point I see no means for adding a disk string.  I don't know if the disk string is different from the disk label. 

Where in the import box should I see the option to add a disk label?



---In avid-l2@yahoogroups.com, <kwikpasta@...> wrote :

Yup, it will always bring it in as native regardless.  You must then transcode to the resolution you require.  This is the workflow for one of the companies I work for;

1)with legacy import mode on, select the mxf's in the clip folder and import them to a temp workspace, adding a disklabel in the import dialog box
2)add tape IDs to the imported clips with the post house's barcode ID so the clips can be identified for batch import
3)transcode down to an offline ISIS workspace at required resolution then delete temp hi res media
4)Edit
5)duplicate final sequence, remove audio, commit multicam edits (if there are any), mark in-out and clear any match frame edits, then decompose imported with handles.
6)Check decomposed clips are correct length, if not, add tape name and decompose again
7)Sort by tape ID
8)Select clips and batch import
9)Avid batch imports all selected clips
10)rinse and repeat for the next roll

This works every time so it's weird that you're having problems, Avid will always do all the selected clips not just one at a time.  You have to do one roll at a time though, if you select all decomposed clips at once Avid will just randomly pick clips and you won't get anywhere, just pick the clips from one roll, import them and then select the next roll.

We never use the proxies though so perhaps this is what is tripping Avid up?  You definitely have the required Sony XDCAM plugin for the U2 installed? You should not see the ProAV folder at all if it is installed correctly, just the normal XDCAM folder structure of Clip, Edit, General, Sub, Take, User Data etc.

If it were up to me I would simply AMA, transcode down, edit and then relink to AMA for conform, i think it's a waste of time and drive space doing the initial import but that's the way they do it.

Hope you figure it out, it's pretty smooth when it's all working.

Andi



To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 17:32:52 -0700
Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: More XD Cam ?s with XD Direct Batch Import requires Legacy XD Cam off but decompose requires it ON?

 
Well from an XD Cam guide this answers one of my questions:



»
Your Avid editing application imports XDCAM media at the native
resolution of the media on the XDCAM disc. Your application ignores other resolution settings — for example, in the Select Files to
Import dialog box. You can repeat this procedure for each XDCAM
disc that holds media you want to import.



---In avid-l2@yahoogroups.com, <bigfish@...> wrote :

This is a follow up to my recent thread about XD Direct workflow.  We have chosen what XD Direct call the batch import workflow.  They have a choice between batch capture which give the ingested XD Cam proxy clips a tape name and you use an XD Cam Deck to batch capture like a tape workflow.  Since we will be using the U2 drive which doesn't work like a deck we will use the batch ingest/import workflow.

The solution we have found to the inability to decompose anything but the entire XD Cam master clips is to Turn on Legacy XD Cam workflow.  This allows for a decompose with handles of the XD Cam material.  Surprisingly though with legacy on we can not then batch import the decomposed clips.  We have to turn of legacy and then batch import the clips grabbing all from a particular disk and then manually finding each clip.  I thought it would at least let you highlight all the clips from an XD Cam disk then batch import highlight all the clips and find the first clip and the rest would automatically be found but because we use the proxy media which is in the "sub" folder that becomes part of the path name and you end up having to find each clip manually.

When we try to batch import with legacy workflow on Avid asks for a particular disk and when it is mounted it finds the clip but then it throws up a debugger error and we hit continue and it spins but nothing happens and it says 0 out of 1 clip imported.  We are going to confer with the Rental house to see where we are going wrong.

The other thing I found in tinkering is if we load an XD Cam disk into the U2 drive then do a standard import by navigating to the clip on the XD cam disk, be it the proxy media or the full rez clip, Avid ignores the resolution we choose for import.  If I point to a proxy the clip comes in mpeg 4 even if I'm in an SD project and tell it to be 14:1.  Even in the SD project if I import one of the full rez clips it comes in as XD Cam 50 mbits and not even an SD resolution.  This is with legacy workflow off.  With legacy workflow on when I go to import it prompts to put in a disk string in an error box but I know of no way to put in a disk string.  These particular import test are not involved with XD Direct at all they are just me doing standard imports to XD Cam disk files.

All are test so far are with the decomposed clips and not by batch importing the finished sequence.  Very funky behavior for what is supposed to be a test and robust workflow.  I'm sure the rental house will show us where we are going wrong.

This in on MacPros OS 10.7.5 with Avid 6.5.4.
 
John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@...

__._,_.___

Posted by: bigfish@pacbell.net
Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (4)
this is the Avid-L2

.

__,_._,___

[Avid-L2] Someone looking for an AE in Burbank

 

I'm just passing this along from Facebook.



"Looking for an AE to start immediately. Gig is 6 months long. Docuseries. Burbank Location. Non Union. Email resumes to davidleecortez@yahoo.com"


__._,_.___

Posted by: tcurren@aol.com
Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (1)
this is the Avid-L2

.

__,_._,___
There was an error in this gadget