Saturday, December 10, 2011

[Avid-L2] Re: Why we make the edit, not how EL video now online

 

BTW: I apologize in advance for the audio. It's what happens when you hire a crew that sucks. :-(

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> On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Terence Curren <tcurren@...> wrote:
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> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Joe Womble <cre8tive@> wrote:
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> > > Thanks so much for providing this for the editing community, TC. We
> > really
> > > appreciate it!
> > >
> > > Joe Womble
> > >
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> > > On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Terence Curren <tcurren@> wrote:
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> > > > Just in time for your weekend viewing...
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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Why we make the edit, not how EL video now online

Thanks!

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On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Terence Curren <tcurren@aol.com> wrote:

> **
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> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Joe Womble <cre8tive@...> wrote:
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> > Thanks so much for providing this for the editing community, TC. We
> really
> > appreciate it!
> >
> > Joe Womble
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Terence Curren <tcurren@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Just in time for your weekend viewing...
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> > > http://vimeo.com/channels/editorslounge
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[Avid-L2] Re: Why we make the edit, not how EL video now online

 

:-)

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Joe Womble <cre8tive@...> wrote:
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> Thanks so much for providing this for the editing community, TC. We really
> appreciate it!
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> Joe Womble
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> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Terence Curren <tcurren@...> wrote:
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> > Just in time for your weekend viewing...
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Re: [Avid-L2] Why we make the edit, not how EL video now online

 

Thanks so much for providing this for the editing community, TC. We really
appreciate it!

Joe Womble

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[Avid-L2] Re: Why we make the edit, not how EL video now online

 

This is great. Thank you.
- Jesse Gordon

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[Avid-L2] Re: Memory problems

 

Unfortunately this is part of the problem with Avid's 32 bit code base. It was written at a time when all the heavy lifting was done with dedicated external hardware so they didn't have to be so memory efficient. When it moved to having the CPU/GPU do the work, the sloppiness of the code in handling memory (memory leaks) became a real issue. The hope is the move to 64 bit will ameliorate this. (The proper answer would be to rewrite the whole code base with efficient code, but that is not economically feasible.)

You can use the "clear bin memory command occasionally to clear up some RAM, but the best practice when working with complex sequences or lots of opening and closing title tool, etc. is to just restart the application when it gets to full. At about 65 percent you won't be able to save a title anymore.

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> Hello All,
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> I am freelancing at a place that uses Adrenaline Newscutter.
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> It's working pretty well in the main...however, the application memory seems to fill up incredibly quickly and, after only a couple of hours
> of admittedly, pretty fast turnaround work, the memory is up to 55% (or more) full, which then leads to more crashes etc.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions as to why this might happen?
>
> BTW, this is my first question to the site, although I have been lurking here for years!
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> Many thanks!
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Re: [Avid-L2] Memory problems

 

Assuming it is a not bug, reduce bin size, render and activate Play
Length? These are the common tools for fighting high memory usage.

On 12/10/2011 7:57 AM, q446444 wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I am freelancing at a place that uses Adrenaline Newscutter.
>
> It's working pretty well in the main...however, the application memory seems to fill up incredibly quickly and, after only a couple of hours
> of admittedly, pretty fast turnaround work, the memory is up to 55% (or more) full, which then leads to more crashes etc.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions as to why this might happen?
>
> BTW, this is my first question to the site, although I have been lurking here for years!
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> Many thanks!
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Re: [Avid-L2] Memory problems

What version of NewsCutter are you running?

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On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 7:57 AM, q446444 <smithsarflondon@btopenworld.com>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Hello All,
>
> I am freelancing at a place that uses Adrenaline Newscutter.
>
> It's working pretty well in the main...however, the application memory
> seems to fill up incredibly quickly and, after only a couple of hours
> of admittedly, pretty fast turnaround work, the memory is up to 55% (or
> more) full, which then leads to more crashes etc.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions as to why this might happen?
>
> BTW, this is my first question to the site, although I have been lurking
> here for years!
>
> Many thanks!
>
>
>


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[Avid-L2] Memory problems

 

Hello All,

I am freelancing at a place that uses Adrenaline Newscutter.

It's working pretty well in the main...however, the application memory seems to fill up incredibly quickly and, after only a couple of hours
of admittedly, pretty fast turnaround work, the memory is up to 55% (or more) full, which then leads to more crashes etc.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to why this might happen?

BTW, this is my first question to the site, although I have been lurking here for years!

Many thanks!

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Re: [Avid-L2] Does Life need a TBC or do I need my head examined?

 

You should try syncing animation audio all day and then getting on the
bus/train and having real people talk out of sync....

Marcus

On 10/12/2011 03:08, Joe Womble wrote:
> Just happened to me last week, Shirley. And, yes, mini-DV is exactly what
> it looked like! Thanks for putting it in my-life-as-an-editor context for
> me.
> Joe Womble
>
>
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> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Shirley Gutierrez<guanacaa@aol.com> wrote:
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>> ...The world looked mini-DV from the late 90s!...

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Friday, December 9, 2011

Re: [Avid-L2] Just upgraded to MC 5.5 - Shared user error?

i have found this really annoying for a while but today found the issue, contact me off list and i can help you fix your settings without having to recreate them.

David C. Ballard
President & Creative Director | LAB 601, Inc.
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From: Anna Hovhannessian <annahovhannessian@yahoo.com<mailto:annahovhannessian@yahoo.com>>
Reply-To: "Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>>
Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 04:31:13 -0500
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Cc: "Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>>
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Just upgraded to MC 5.5 - Shared user error?

I get that message when I stored my user settings on a server for access from others pcs.

Just click stop sharing and resave your user settings.

On Nov 12, 2011, at 4:04 AM, Roger Shufflebottom <rogershuff@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:rogershuff%40yahoo.co.uk>> wrote:

> Sounds right - we had a bunch of problems with student systems where I teach - had to run them up once as Admin, too, before regular log-ins worked properly.
>
> On 11 Nov 2011, at 23:29, Dennis Degan wrote:
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> >
> >
> > Based on the error, you may have a permissions problem, which leads
> > me to believe that the installation was done from a user login. I'll
> > bet that if you log in as the Admin, uninstall, then reinstall as
> > Admin, the system should work properly.
> >
> > Dennis Degan, Video Editor-Consultant-Knowledge Bank
> > NBC Today Show, New York
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Re: [Avid-L2] Does Life need a TBC or do I need my head examined?

 

Just happened to me last week, Shirley. And, yes, mini-DV is exactly what
it looked like! Thanks for putting it in my-life-as-an-editor context for
me.
Joe Womble

On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Shirley Gutierrez <guanacaa@aol.com> wrote:

> ...The world looked mini-DV from the late 90s!...

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[Avid-L2] Re: Does Life need a TBC or do I need my head examined?

 

When I do color correction all day I start with the scope to get blacks black and whites white based on vector parade and diamond display on a Tek scope. Then a twiddle with mids/gamma. Then I look at the monitor. This seems like a common approach used by many colorists I know. This also similar to what happens when "Chipping" cameras on set and also how telecine transfers are done. Once you've got it "Graded" then you tweak for a look or desired effect. most of my work is to just get it looking "real". So as mentioned by Dennis I'm curious how others treat dark scenes. The discription of the soap opera where the table lamp was the only thing around 100 percent lumanince is how I usually approach dark scenes too. Also when there isn't things in an image that are black I still try and get the setup close to 0. Of course that's a judgement call but it seems like the more I can spread the dynamic range the better and the brain seems to like it. Really interested in how others approach this.

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> The problem is your eye automatically adjust all day long. So relying on what your brain tells you the color on your monitor is sounds like a recipe for disaster. Is that white really white?
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Degan <DennyD1@> wrote:
>
>
> <<Use your eyes to tell you what looks right on that monitor,
> > THEN check your scopes to make sure you're good. It seems odd for me
> > (a technician) to be saying this, but I believe that art comes before
> > technology. It should look good to your eye before you question its
> > technical 'correctness'.>>
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[Avid-L2] Re: Does Life need a TBC or do I need my head examined?

 

You have it backwards Dennis. You check the scope first and then the monitor. Why?

Because of the way the human eye/brain combo works. Unlike a camera, we are doing a mental "white balance" all the time. So what you see as white on the monitor your brain will accept as white, however there are tons of shades of white. So your idea that a monitor and your eye can tell what is the proper shade of white for your intended color space is ludicrous.

I maintain the first steps for color correction are objective, make it legal for your intended distribution, then make it consistent (matching cameras, etc) then comes the artistic subjective part of giving it a look. The scope is mandatory for the first two parts, the objective parts.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Degan <DennyD1@...> wrote:
>
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, I wrote:
>
> <<Use your eyes to tell you what looks right on that monitor, THEN
> check your scopes to make sure you're good. It seems odd for me (a
> technician) to be saying this, but I believe that art comes before
> technology. It should look good to your eye before you question its
> technical 'correctness'.>>
>
> On Dec 9, 2011, at 6:17 PM, Terence Curren wrote:
>
> > The problem is your eye automatically adjust all day long. So
> relying on what your brain tells you the color on your monitor is
> sounds like a recipe for disaster. Is that white really white?
>
> I say:
>
> That's why I said to check your scopes AFTER monitoring by eye.
> Also, color monitors used for critical color decision-making should be
> installed in a controlled environment in order to minimize these
> judgement variations. If you have to worry about whether the white on
> a specific monitor is really white, you don't have a reliable
> reference monitoring environment.
> The original question was more about contrast issues than colorimetry.
>
> Dennis Degan, Video Editor-Consultant-Knowledge Bank
> NBC Today Show, New York
>
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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Does Life need a TBC or do I need my head examined?

 


--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, I wrote:

<<Use your eyes to tell you what looks right on that monitor, THEN
check your scopes to make sure you're good. It seems odd for me (a
technician) to be saying this, but I believe that art comes before
technology. It should look good to your eye before you question its
technical 'correctness'.>>

On Dec 9, 2011, at 6:17 PM, Terence Curren wrote:

> The problem is your eye automatically adjust all day long. So
relying on what your brain tells you the color on your monitor is
sounds like a recipe for disaster. Is that white really white?

I say:

That's why I said to check your scopes AFTER monitoring by eye.
Also, color monitors used for critical color decision-making should be
installed in a controlled environment in order to minimize these
judgement variations. If you have to worry about whether the white on
a specific monitor is really white, you don't have a reliable
reference monitoring environment.
The original question was more about contrast issues than colorimetry.

Dennis Degan, Video Editor-Consultant-Knowledge Bank
NBC Today Show, New York

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