Saturday, February 25, 2012

Re: [Avid-L2] Trouble using Magic Bullet Plugins

 

Found same and agree.  Would love to have full suite in MC

Jim Gilson
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Jimmy Dutt <bytemonkey@mac.com> wrote:

On Feb 25, 2012, at 3:30 PM, Zach Scott wrote:

> "Looks" seems to be working fine in Avid but I am not sure how to install the rest of the plugins (Mojo, colorista, Cosmo, etc...).

Looks (specifically Looks 2) is currently the only part of the suite that hooks into Media Composer. However, a subset of Cosmo and Colorista functionality exists within Looks 2 so not all is lost. For that matter you can emulate most of the Mojo vibe as well (although not in such a straightforward manner).

I recall when that update came down the pike it seemed a bit misleading as to MC support, so it's not surprising that some folks thought the whole thing would light up in MC.

Call RG sales and let them know your situation.

-jimmy

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Re: [Avid-L2] Trouble using Magic Bullet Plugins

 


On Feb 25, 2012, at 3:30 PM, Zach Scott wrote:

> "Looks" seems to be working fine in Avid but I am not sure how to install the rest of the plugins (Mojo, colorista, Cosmo, etc...).

Looks (specifically Looks 2) is currently the only part of the suite that hooks into Media Composer. However, a subset of Cosmo and Colorista functionality exists within Looks 2 so not all is lost. For that matter you can emulate most of the Mojo vibe as well (although not in such a straightforward manner).

I recall when that update came down the pike it seemed a bit misleading as to MC support, so it's not surprising that some folks thought the whole thing would light up in MC.

Call RG sales and let them know your situation.

-jimmy

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Re: [Avid-L2] COM Port Busy

 

I'll have to look at what Adobe might be doing there. Yes, we have a Rosetta Stone feeding a Blackmagic-Desing Videohub. I might go direct from the serial port to the deck to take that out of the equation.

Thanks,

Sean

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Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] COM Port Busy

I've had an issue where the Adobe PDF Writer virtually took control over COM1. Once I changed that to LPT1, the COM1 port fell free for deck control again.

You do have a Rosetta Stone in there, right?

J



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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Need Help with Simple Editing of VIDEO_TS files

 

Premier let's us put the dvd right on the timeline, cut, export (to QTref) then, easy dvd build

Jim Gilson
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Mark Myers <MarkM@SR-Pro.com> wrote:

I was going to suggest Premier, but FCP works...

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On 2/25/12 3:49 PM, Jeff Kreines wrote:
>
> Thanks, everyone.
>
> I think I have it under control... finally.
>
> Demuxed the original and created one long VOB file of the entire film,
> sans audio. Ripped a copy of the picture to DVD codec just for a
> reference. Made an AIFF version of the AC3 audio. After going crazy
> trying to deal with sync in programs like DVD Studio I instead went to
> FCP, fixed the audio sync, exported audio to AC3, and recombined with
> the demuxed picture file.
>
> Or that's what I will be finishing this afternoon.
>
> Redoing this in HD soon enough, but need a good quality screener with
> fixes now.
>
> Thanks, truly.
>
> Jeff Kreines
>
> On Feb 25, 2012, at 2:37 PM, pleasecallmebob wrote:
>
> > I know you'd rather not do this but my suggestion is to rip the DVD.
> This doc details how to convert MPEG2 files for use in MC:
> >
> http://avid.custkb.com/avid/app/selfservice/search.jsp?DocId=350179&NewLang=en
> <http://avid.custkb.com/avid/app/selfservice/search.jsp?DocId=350179&NewLang=en>
>
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Jeff Kreines <jeffkreines@...> wrote:
> >>
> >> Forgive the crossposting.
> >>
> >> I have what should be a simple problem to deal with.
> >>
> >> I have a DVD of a film that was compressed on a high-end system
> from a Digibeta master.
> >>
> >> I can't access the Avid files (Meridien Symphony) because one of
> the drives in a RAID (not 5) died. I can't redigitize because I sold
> my Digibeta deck.
> >>
> >> There is a point where 2 frames of picture were dropped, apparently
> on the Digibeta master, and after that the audio is 2 frames out of
> sync. There is a simple place to add two frames of picture (it's
> black) right near the missing frames. Simple, right?
> >>
> >> I would prefer to keep the files encoded as they are, rather than
> export them to QT or some other format and re=compress them.
> >>
> >> When I open the files from the DVD in MPEG Streamclip -- the audio
> folder is empty -- I get 6 VOB files -- names VTS_01_0.VOB and the
> like. There are other files that MPEG Streamclip can not open -- BUP,
> IFO. There is also a very small file named VIDEO_TS.VOB.
> >>
> >> When I open the files that will open in MPEG Streamclip, the video
> plays but no audio. Open the same files in VLC and the audio plays, no
> problem.
> >>
> >> I was assuming that I could just edit the picture in Streamclip,
> but realized that the audio is embedded (I am assuming) in the VOB
> files so a cut will just cut to a new section with audio still out of
> sync.
> >>
> >> I have exported the audio to AIFF with no problem, and can drop two
> frames from it easily, but how do I then get the fixed audio to be
> used with the VOB files? I am trying to avoid any recompression if the
> picture.
> >>
> >> Any advice appreciated!
> >>
> >> Jeff Kreines
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Search the official Complete Avid-L archives at:
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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Need Help with Simple Editing of VIDEO_TS files

 

I was going to suggest Premier, but FCP works...

-Mark

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On 2/25/12 3:49 PM, Jeff Kreines wrote:
>
> Thanks, everyone.
>
> I think I have it under control... finally.
>
> Demuxed the original and created one long VOB file of the entire film,
> sans audio. Ripped a copy of the picture to DVD codec just for a
> reference. Made an AIFF version of the AC3 audio. After going crazy
> trying to deal with sync in programs like DVD Studio I instead went to
> FCP, fixed the audio sync, exported audio to AC3, and recombined with
> the demuxed picture file.
>
> Or that's what I will be finishing this afternoon.
>
> Redoing this in HD soon enough, but need a good quality screener with
> fixes now.
>
> Thanks, truly.
>
> Jeff Kreines
>
> On Feb 25, 2012, at 2:37 PM, pleasecallmebob wrote:
>
> > I know you'd rather not do this but my suggestion is to rip the DVD.
> This doc details how to convert MPEG2 files for use in MC:
> >
> http://avid.custkb.com/avid/app/selfservice/search.jsp?DocId=350179&NewLang=en
> <http://avid.custkb.com/avid/app/selfservice/search.jsp?DocId=350179&NewLang=en>
>
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Jeff Kreines <jeffkreines@...> wrote:
> >>
> >> Forgive the crossposting.
> >>
> >> I have what should be a simple problem to deal with.
> >>
> >> I have a DVD of a film that was compressed on a high-end system
> from a Digibeta master.
> >>
> >> I can't access the Avid files (Meridien Symphony) because one of
> the drives in a RAID (not 5) died. I can't redigitize because I sold
> my Digibeta deck.
> >>
> >> There is a point where 2 frames of picture were dropped, apparently
> on the Digibeta master, and after that the audio is 2 frames out of
> sync. There is a simple place to add two frames of picture (it's
> black) right near the missing frames. Simple, right?
> >>
> >> I would prefer to keep the files encoded as they are, rather than
> export them to QT or some other format and re=compress them.
> >>
> >> When I open the files from the DVD in MPEG Streamclip -- the audio
> folder is empty -- I get 6 VOB files -- names VTS_01_0.VOB and the
> like. There are other files that MPEG Streamclip can not open -- BUP,
> IFO. There is also a very small file named VIDEO_TS.VOB.
> >>
> >> When I open the files that will open in MPEG Streamclip, the video
> plays but no audio. Open the same files in VLC and the audio plays, no
> problem.
> >>
> >> I was assuming that I could just edit the picture in Streamclip,
> but realized that the audio is embedded (I am assuming) in the VOB
> files so a cut will just cut to a new section with audio still out of
> sync.
> >>
> >> I have exported the audio to AIFF with no problem, and can drop two
> frames from it easily, but how do I then get the fixed audio to be
> used with the VOB files? I am trying to avoid any recompression if the
> picture.
> >>
> >> Any advice appreciated!
> >>
> >> Jeff Kreines
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Search the official Complete Avid-L archives at:
> http://archives.bengrosser.com/avid/
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Need Help with Simple Editing of VIDEO_TS files

 

Thanks, everyone.

I think I have it under control... finally.

Demuxed the original and created one long VOB file of the entire film, sans audio. Ripped a copy of the picture to DVD codec just for a reference. Made an AIFF version of the AC3 audio. After going crazy trying to deal with sync in programs like DVD Studio I instead went to FCP, fixed the audio sync, exported audio to AC3, and recombined with the demuxed picture file.

Or that's what I will be finishing this afternoon.

Redoing this in HD soon enough, but need a good quality screener with fixes now.

Thanks, truly.

Jeff Kreines

On Feb 25, 2012, at 2:37 PM, pleasecallmebob wrote:

> I know you'd rather not do this but my suggestion is to rip the DVD. This doc details how to convert MPEG2 files for use in MC:
> http://avid.custkb.com/avid/app/selfservice/search.jsp?DocId=350179&NewLang=en
>
> Bob
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Kreines <jeffkreines@...> wrote:
>>
>> Forgive the crossposting.
>>
>> I have what should be a simple problem to deal with.
>>
>> I have a DVD of a film that was compressed on a high-end system from a Digibeta master.
>>
>> I can't access the Avid files (Meridien Symphony) because one of the drives in a RAID (not 5) died. I can't redigitize because I sold my Digibeta deck.
>>
>> There is a point where 2 frames of picture were dropped, apparently on the Digibeta master, and after that the audio is 2 frames out of sync. There is a simple place to add two frames of picture (it's black) right near the missing frames. Simple, right?
>>
>> I would prefer to keep the files encoded as they are, rather than export them to QT or some other format and re=compress them.
>>
>> When I open the files from the DVD in MPEG Streamclip -- the audio folder is empty -- I get 6 VOB files -- names VTS_01_0.VOB and the like. There are other files that MPEG Streamclip can not open -- BUP, IFO. There is also a very small file named VIDEO_TS.VOB.
>>
>> When I open the files that will open in MPEG Streamclip, the video plays but no audio. Open the same files in VLC and the audio plays, no problem.
>>
>> I was assuming that I could just edit the picture in Streamclip, but realized that the audio is embedded (I am assuming) in the VOB files so a cut will just cut to a new section with audio still out of sync.
>>
>> I have exported the audio to AIFF with no problem, and can drop two frames from it easily, but how do I then get the fixed audio to be used with the VOB files? I am trying to avoid any recompression if the picture.
>>
>> Any advice appreciated!
>>
>> Jeff Kreines
>>
>
>
>
>
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[Avid-L2] Re: Need Help with Simple Editing of VIDEO_TS files

 

I know you'd rather not do this but my suggestion is to rip the DVD. This doc details how to convert MPEG2 files for use in MC:
http://avid.custkb.com/avid/app/selfservice/search.jsp?DocId=350179&NewLang=en

Bob

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Kreines <jeffkreines@...> wrote:
>
> Forgive the crossposting.
>
> I have what should be a simple problem to deal with.
>
> I have a DVD of a film that was compressed on a high-end system from a Digibeta master.
>
> I can't access the Avid files (Meridien Symphony) because one of the drives in a RAID (not 5) died. I can't redigitize because I sold my Digibeta deck.
>
> There is a point where 2 frames of picture were dropped, apparently on the Digibeta master, and after that the audio is 2 frames out of sync. There is a simple place to add two frames of picture (it's black) right near the missing frames. Simple, right?
>
> I would prefer to keep the files encoded as they are, rather than export them to QT or some other format and re=compress them.
>
> When I open the files from the DVD in MPEG Streamclip -- the audio folder is empty -- I get 6 VOB files -- names VTS_01_0.VOB and the like. There are other files that MPEG Streamclip can not open -- BUP, IFO. There is also a very small file named VIDEO_TS.VOB.
>
> When I open the files that will open in MPEG Streamclip, the video plays but no audio. Open the same files in VLC and the audio plays, no problem.
>
> I was assuming that I could just edit the picture in Streamclip, but realized that the audio is embedded (I am assuming) in the VOB files so a cut will just cut to a new section with audio still out of sync.
>
> I have exported the audio to AIFF with no problem, and can drop two frames from it easily, but how do I then get the fixed audio to be used with the VOB files? I am trying to avoid any recompression if the picture.
>
> Any advice appreciated!
>
> Jeff Kreines
>

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[Avid-L2] Trouble using Magic Bullet Plugins

 

I have just purchased and installed the Magic Bullet Suite 11.2 from Red Giant for Avid MC 6
"Looks" seems to be working fine in Avid but I am not sure how to install the rest of the plugins (Mojo, colorista, Cosmo, etc...). I have been looking for support for Avid all morning but haven't found a thing. 
If anyone has the suite or knows how to get the rest of the programs in the suite working with Avid, it would be greatly appreciated!

 
        ..::Zach Scott::..
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Re: [Avid-L2] COM Port Busy

 


I've had an issue where the Adobe PDF Writer virtually took control over COM1. Once I changed that to LPT1, the COM1 port fell free for deck control again.

You do have a Rosetta Stone in there, right?

J

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Friday, February 24, 2012

[Avid-L2] Re: Going Freelance

 

Many thanks for all the kinds words and advice!

I'm living in the Netherlands and I'm starting with a three month project which gives me some time to get to the next thing. I'm editing a documentary style project about a sportsclub.

Tnx again guys!

Bas

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "basvanschellen" <basvanschellen@...> wrote:
>
> Hey guys,
>
> This might not concern most of you, but still, I like this forum enough to just post this here. After working for my current employer for the last 7 years I've decided to go and work as a freelance Editor.
> So... starting March 1st I'll be all alone in this crazy video world!
>
> That's all :)
>
> Bas
>

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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: [FCP-L] Need Help with Simple Editing of VIDEO_TS files

 

Trim the audio twice?

Once from the top and once from the tail.

Robert @
Red Truck
Toronto, CA
Video to go!

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Cc: "Jeff Kreines" <jeffkreines@mindspring.com>
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 8:00 PM
Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: [FCP-L] Need Help with Simple Editing of VIDEO_TS
files

> Thanks so far for all the help.
>
> I have a demuxed version with 1 long AC3 audio file and 1 long video file.
> So far so good.
>
> I need to drop 3 frames in the middle of the audio track.
>
> Ideally I want a program that opens an AC3 file, lets me edit it (cutting
> out a few frames) and slide the latter part of the track so there is no
> gap (and there is sync) and save it as one track.
>
> Audacity claims to open AC3 tracks but doesn't seem to work -- it shows a
> file of the right length, but no waveform or audio.
>
> MPEG Streamclip plays the file, but appears to only let me select an in or
> out for a clip and trim it. It doesn't appear to let me do this to the
> head section and tail section and splice the two together!
>
> This is simple stuff I did in the early 90s on a Dyaxis, before ProTools
> existed.
>
> Should I convert the AC3 to something else? That seems to be the easiest
> path.
>
> Jeff
>
>
> On Feb 24, 2012, at 5:22 PM, Rich Young wrote:
>
>> I haven't done DVDs for awhile but Adobe Encore DVD added cuts editing as
>> well as a imports of VOB files several years ago. It worked then...
>> Rich
>>
>> --- On Fri, 2/24/12, Jeff Kreines <jeffkreines@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Tod:
>>
>>
>>
>> That is what I figured...
>>
>>
>>
>> I am able to do the fix with just deleting a couple of frames of audio.
>> Works properly with the project exported to FCP.
>>
>>
>>
>> Is there a way (with MPEG Streamclip) to delete the audio that is muxed
>> into the VOB files and replace it with new audio (preferably one piece
>> for the entire 90 minute film)?
>>
>>
>>
>> That way theoretically the picture would remain as is...
>>
>>
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>>
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Tod Hopkins wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Even if you manage to hack your way through this, the resulting DVD is
>>> unlikely to work properly. Nothing is designed to edit VOB files "in
>>> situ" as far as I know.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> You could use MPEGStreamclip to extract all the elementary streams from
>>> the VOB which you can re-edit and then reauthor back to a new DVD.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> I'm not sure if anything can edit an MPEG elementary stream without
>>> recompressing on output. You need the continuous GOP structure.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Cheers,
>>
>>> tod
>>
>>>
>>
>>> On Feb 24, 2012, at 2:39 PM, Jeff Kreines wrote:
>>
>>>
>>
>>>> Forgive the crossposting.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> I have what should be a simple problem to deal with.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> I have a DVD of a film that was compressed on a high-end system from a
>>>> Digibeta master.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> I can't access the Avid files (Meridien Symphony) because one of the
>>>> drives in a RAID (not 5) died. I can't redigitize because I sold my
>>>> Digibeta deck.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> There is a point where 2 frames of picture were dropped, apparently on
>>>> the Digibeta master, and after that the audio is 2 frames out of sync.
>>>> There is a simple place to add two frames of picture (it's black) right
>>>> near the missing frames. Simple, right?
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> I would prefer to keep the files encoded as they are, rather than
>>>> export them to QT or some other format and re=compress them.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> When I open the files from the DVD in MPEG Streamclip -- the audio
>>>> folder is empty -- I get 6 VOB files -- names VTS_01_0.VOB and the
>>>> like. There are other files that MPEG Streamclip can not open -- BUP,
>>>> IFO. There is also a very small file named VIDEO_TS.VOB.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> When I open the files that will open in MPEG Streamclip, the video
>>>> plays but no audio. Open the same files in VLC and the audio plays, no
>>>> problem.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> I was assuming that I could just edit the picture in Streamclip, but
>>>> realized that the audio is embedded (I am assuming) in the VOB files so
>>>> a cut will just cut to a new section with audio still out of sync.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> I have exported the audio to AIFF with no problem, and can drop two
>>>> frames from it easily, but how do I then get the fixed audio to be used
>>>> with the VOB files? I am trying to avoid any recompression if the
>>>> picture.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> Any advice appreciated!
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> Jeff Kreines
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Tod Hopkins
>>
>>> Hillmann & Carr Inc.
>>
>>> todhopkins@hillmanncarr.com
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
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>>
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[Avid-L2] Re: [FCP-L] Need Help with Simple Editing of VIDEO_TS files

 

Thanks so far for all the help.

I have a demuxed version with 1 long AC3 audio file and 1 long video file. So far so good.

I need to drop 3 frames in the middle of the audio track.

Ideally I want a program that opens an AC3 file, lets me edit it (cutting out a few frames) and slide the latter part of the track so there is no gap (and there is sync) and save it as one track.

Audacity claims to open AC3 tracks but doesn't seem to work -- it shows a file of the right length, but no waveform or audio.

MPEG Streamclip plays the file, but appears to only let me select an in or out for a clip and trim it. It doesn't appear to let me do this to the head section and tail section and splice the two together!

This is simple stuff I did in the early 90s on a Dyaxis, before ProTools existed.

Should I convert the AC3 to something else? That seems to be the easiest path.

Jeff

On Feb 24, 2012, at 5:22 PM, Rich Young wrote:

> I haven't done DVDs for awhile but Adobe Encore DVD added cuts editing as well as a imports of VOB files several years ago. It worked then...
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> --- On Fri, 2/24/12, Jeff Kreines <jeffkreines@mindspring.com> wrote:
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> I am able to do the fix with just deleting a couple of frames of audio. Works properly with the project exported to FCP.
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> Is there a way (with MPEG Streamclip) to delete the audio that is muxed into the VOB files and replace it with new audio (preferably one piece for the entire 90 minute film)?
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>> Even if you manage to hack your way through this, the resulting DVD is unlikely to work properly. Nothing is designed to edit VOB files "in situ" as far as I know.
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>> You could use MPEGStreamclip to extract all the elementary streams from the VOB which you can re-edit and then reauthor back to a new DVD.
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>> I'm not sure if anything can edit an MPEG elementary stream without recompressing on output. You need the continuous GOP structure.
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>> On Feb 24, 2012, at 2:39 PM, Jeff Kreines wrote:
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>>> Forgive the crossposting.
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>>> I have what should be a simple problem to deal with.
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>>> I have a DVD of a film that was compressed on a high-end system from a Digibeta master.
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>>> I can't access the Avid files (Meridien Symphony) because one of the drives in a RAID (not 5) died. I can't redigitize because I sold my Digibeta deck.
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>>> There is a point where 2 frames of picture were dropped, apparently on the Digibeta master, and after that the audio is 2 frames out of sync. There is a simple place to add two frames of picture (it's black) right near the missing frames. Simple, right?
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>>> I would prefer to keep the files encoded as they are, rather than export them to QT or some other format and re=compress them.
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>>> When I open the files from the DVD in MPEG Streamclip -- the audio folder is empty -- I get 6 VOB files -- names VTS_01_0.VOB and the like. There are other files that MPEG Streamclip can not open -- BUP, IFO. There is also a very small file named VIDEO_TS.VOB.
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>>> When I open the files that will open in MPEG Streamclip, the video plays but no audio. Open the same files in VLC and the audio plays, no problem.
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>>> I was assuming that I could just edit the picture in Streamclip, but realized that the audio is embedded (I am assuming) in the VOB files so a cut will just cut to a new section with audio still out of sync.
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>>> I have exported the audio to AIFF with no problem, and can drop two frames from it easily, but how do I then get the fixed audio to be used with the VOB files? I am trying to avoid any recompression if the picture.
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Re: [Avid-L2] Re: [FCP-L] Need Help with Simple Editing of VIDEO_TS files

You simply can't "edit" a finished DVD which is essentially what the VOB files are. Although we sometimes treat VOB's as simply a muxed AV file, they are much more complicated than that. The VOB files contain everything for the DVD, video, audio, menus, controls, stills, captions, etc...

Even if it were possible in theory, there's no reason to build such a tool.

Also, unless it was highly compressed, a 90 minute movie won't fit inside a single VOB. VOB files on DVD are limited to 1GB.

As others have described, you can deconstruct VOB to extract some of their components, such as the elementary streams, and rebuild the DVD, but that's really your only option.

Cheers,
tod

On Feb 24, 2012, at 5:35 PM, Jeff Kreines wrote:

> Tod:
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> That is what I figured...
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> I am able to do the fix with just deleting a couple of frames of audio. Works properly with the project exported to FCP.
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> Is there a way (with MPEG Streamclip) to delete the audio that is muxed into the VOB files and replace it with new audio (preferably one piece for the entire 90 minute film)?
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> That way theoretically the picture would remain as is...
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> Any thoughts?
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> On Feb 24, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Tod Hopkins wrote:
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> > Even if you manage to hack your way through this, the resulting DVD is unlikely to work properly. Nothing is designed to edit VOB files "in situ" as far as I know.
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> > You could use MPEGStreamclip to extract all the elementary streams from the VOB which you can re-edit and then reauthor back to a new DVD.
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> > I'm not sure if anything can edit an MPEG elementary stream without recompressing on output. You need the continuous GOP structure.
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> > On Feb 24, 2012, at 2:39 PM, Jeff Kreines wrote:
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> >> Forgive the crossposting.
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> >> I have what should be a simple problem to deal with.
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> >> I have a DVD of a film that was compressed on a high-end system from a Digibeta master.
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> >> I can't access the Avid files (Meridien Symphony) because one of the drives in a RAID (not 5) died. I can't redigitize because I sold my Digibeta deck.
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> >> There is a point where 2 frames of picture were dropped, apparently on the Digibeta master, and after that the audio is 2 frames out of sync. There is a simple place to add two frames of picture (it's black) right near the missing frames. Simple, right?
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> >> I would prefer to keep the files encoded as they are, rather than export them to QT or some other format and re=compress them.
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> >> When I open the files from the DVD in MPEG Streamclip -- the audio folder is empty -- I get 6 VOB files -- names VTS_01_0.VOB and the like. There are other files that MPEG Streamclip can not open -- BUP, IFO. There is also a very small file named VIDEO_TS.VOB.
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> >> When I open the files that will open in MPEG Streamclip, the video plays but no audio. Open the same files in VLC and the audio plays, no problem.
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> >> I was assuming that I could just edit the picture in Streamclip, but realized that the audio is embedded (I am assuming) in the VOB files so a cut will just cut to a new section with audio still out of sync.
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> >> I have exported the audio to AIFF with no problem, and can drop two frames from it easily, but how do I then get the fixed audio to be used with the VOB files? I am trying to avoid any recompression if the picture.
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> >> Any advice appreciated!
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> >> Jeff Kreines
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> > Tod Hopkins
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Tod Hopkins
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