Saturday, April 6, 2013

[Avid-L2] OT: Getting Ready for NAB

 

Okay time to get my Nerd on big time.  Polishing up my fanny pack and making sure I've got fresh batteries in my pocket VOM and mini mag lite.  I just can't decide on the proper Tshirt.  My new green "Media Offline" shirt is always appropriate in the Avid booth but will I be shunned at Adobe?  Maybe I should stick to the Vector Scope Tshirt but then all the newbies will be confused and think I'm wearing a crop circle shirt.  Oh decisions, decisions.  Looking forward to catch up with some of the other L'ers at NAB Monday night at the Hard Rock.

John Moore

Barking Trout Productions

Studio City, CA

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[Avid-L2] Re: 2013 PreNAB Editors' Lounge videos now online

 



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Thanks Terence.
Both informative and thought provoking.

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[Avid-L2] Re: 2013 PreNAB Editors' Lounge videos now online

 



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Both informative and thought provoking.

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[Avid-L2] Re: Timeline of Avid's CEOs

 

Update

William J Warner: 1987 - September 1991
Curt A. Rawley: September 1991 - April 1996
William Miller: April 1996 - November 1999
David Krall: April 2000 - July 2007
Nancy Hawthorne (interim): July 2007 - December 2007
Gary Greenfield: December 2007 - February 2013
Louis Hernandez: February 2013 - present

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[Avid-L2] 2013 PreNAB Editors' Lounge videos now online

 

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<http://editorslounge.com/videos.html>

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Friday, April 5, 2013

RE: [Avid-L2] Re: file based QC

 

Pat

That is very kind of you. We also built it into Contentagent as a QC
node :-)

Rupert Watson

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From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Pat Horridge
Sent: 05 April 2013 14:25
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: file based QC

I'd second looking at vidchecker.

It's a really neat applications http://www.vidcheck.com/

We've looked at it a couple of times and initially it wasn't quite there
(for us) but the current version is very powerful and capable and not
that
expensive.

We have a whole bunch of training coming up based on broadcast QC and
the
move to file based deliveries and will be getting in Cerify
http://www.tek.com/file-based-content-analyzer/cerify-video-content-anal
ysis

As part of the course. However it's not a cheap solution and in some
ways
not as flexible as Vidchecker so I may look at having Vidchecker on hand
as
well. (we should talk Rupert)

If your London based then talk to Root 6 as they distribute it.

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[Avid-L2] Re: Upgrade to 6.5 causes loudness shift?

 

This sound similar to all the strange audio mixdown issues I've seen where the output setting mono vs. stereo or direct causes a difference of 3db when summing stereo stems. To review if I'm set to mono on output then the sum of two stereo music tracks etc... will require a -6db audio mixer setting to compensate properly for the summing. Doing the same thing with the output setting set to stereo and the resulting audio mixdown requires a -3db audio mixer setting for the resulting track to maintain the proper summed level and the behavior is the same when in direct. I've yet to figure out the change in behavior but I speculate it might have something to do with the addition of stereo tracks but IIRC those existed in 5.5 too so why the different behavior in V6 and above?

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "tim_selander" <selander@...> wrote:
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> I have been moved over to management in our little company, so have not done any finishing since all the rules about loudness changed. However, I'm still the go-to trouble shooter for our Avids because all you wonderful guys and gals speak English, and I'm the only English speaker here....
>
> So I only have a tenuous grasp on loudeness. But we've just upgraded from MCS 5.5 to 6.5, and our first delivery with 6.5, printed to HDCAM tape, are getting kicked back from various stations' QC because they are all 3db louder than they are supposed to be.
>
> My guy tells me he's followed the same procedure as last week as last week with MCS5.5, and can't figure out what he's doing wrong.
>
> Using the Nugen VisLM plugin, Mac OSX. Blackmagic Decklink for the interface.
>
> Can anyone give me a clue???
>
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Tim Selander
> Tokyo, Japan
>

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Re: [Avid-L2] Upgrade to 6.5 causes loudness shift?

 

Job,

Thanks for the explanation, no doubt that is where our problem
lies. It's now Saturday here, so it will be Monday before I can
check the settings.

However, I'm still not sure I'm getting it. Our program is
delivered in mono, and all our production/clips are mono. It's a
simple production; anywhere from 1 to 3 people, each person's
voice on a separate audio track, music (also mono) down on track
4, output to tape, mono on both left and right channel.

My gut tells me panning shouldn't have an effect here, but would
it? (My gut's been wrong before!;-)

Also, if at the time of digital cut, the 1k tone is at the same
spot as always on the deck's audio meters, could the "loudness"
still be 3db too high?

Sorry to take your time on what must be pretty basic stuff these
days....

Tim Selander
Tokyo, Japan

On 4/5/13 7:46 PM, Job ter Burg (L2B) wrote:
> That indicates something's summing, probably L/R.
>
> Double check if the default pan settings are correct, and if the program audio's panning is set correct.
>
> Here's the issue I've seen happen: if you for instance work with user settings that have default pan set to Center Pan, cut and level your audio, then send your sequence to someone else, and if this other person uses user settings with default pan set to Alternating L/R, the tracks will play back as alternating L/R. And vice versa.
>
> It's apparently because the default pan has NO panning info, so it will adapt to the user's default pan settings, UNLESS you have manually set or changed the panning for the clips.
>
> So it can be easy to see changed levels after switching user settings, 'cause if you have stereo L on A1 and stereo R on A2 and sum both to center, everything will be 3dB too hot.
>
> J
>
> On 5 apr. 2013, at 10:30, "tim_selander" <selander@tkf.att.ne.jp> wrote:
>
>> they are all 3db louder
>
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RE: [Avid-L2] losing my job (and mind)

 

It's always a difficult transition wh.en you don't get to set the terms, but
stay positive and don't burn any bridges. You may find some incredible
opportunities out there that you would have missed

Dave Spraker


Western Rep | EditShare | Consulting | Sports Audio

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<https://www.vizify.com/es/50a32f618e76660002000521> See my vizify bio!

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Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 8:58 AM
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] losing my job (and mind)

Hi Mike -
Business out my way has been pretty slow the past couple of years, but
I'll certainly keep you in mind, and pass your name around.
Mark

Owner, Director
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On 4/4/2013 4:45 PM, mike cardeiro wrote:
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> so, after seeing it happen to many others, it is finally happening to
> me. I just found out that I am losing my job on the 15th
>
> If anybody knows of opportunities either fulltime or freelance, please
> let me know. I would prefer to stay in Pennsylvania, but will consider
> anything.
>
> Thank you
> Mike Cardeiro
> Soon to be Former Editor/Animator/Compositor
> D4 Creative Group - Philadelphia, PA
>
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[Avid-L2] Re: file based QC

 

I'd second looking at vidchecker.

It's a really neat applications http://www.vidcheck.com/

We've looked at it a couple of times and initially it wasn't quite there
(for us) but the current version is very powerful and capable and not that
expensive.

We have a whole bunch of training coming up based on broadcast QC and the
move to file based deliveries and will be getting in Cerify
http://www.tek.com/file-based-content-analyzer/cerify-video-content-analysis

As part of the course. However it's not a cheap solution and in some ways
not as flexible as Vidchecker so I may look at having Vidchecker on hand as
well. (we should talk Rupert)

If your London based then talk to Root 6 as they distribute it.

Pat Horridge
Technical Director, Trainer, Avid Certified Instructor
VET
Production Editing Digital Media Design DVD
T +44 (0)20 7505 4701 | F +44 (0)20 7505 4800 | E <mailto:pat@vet.co.uk>
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Re: [Avid-L2] Creating a clip from a sequence: NEW FR: Subsequence behavior

 

Got it. Well then I'm for it too - I could definitely see that coming in
handy.

On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 5:05 PM, electropura212 <electropura212@gmail.com>wrote:

> Sounds like a Compound Clip from that funny NLE that came out last year
> from the boys in Cupertino.
>
> On Friday, April 5, 2013, Job ter Burg (L2B) wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes, but your method requires there are no edits inside those
> subsequences
> > (AutoSync won't AutoSync if there's any cut).
> >
> > What many folks have been asking is a way to build select rolls or
> > stringouts, and use those sequences as matchframeable sources.
> >
> > So I compile a bunch of different pieces of picture and sound into a
> > stringout or selects reel, I then would for instance right-click the
> > sequence in its bin and label it a source roll or stringout or selects
> > roll. When I then double click that selects reel in the bin, it opens in
> > the source monitor, not the record monitor.
> >
> > Also, when I cut from such a stringout I might want the clips in the
> > timeline to refer to the name of the stringout (preferably optional). And
> > when I have cut in some shots from a stringout into a sequence, and I
> park
> > in that new sequence and hit matchframe, I'd like the stringout to appear
> > in the source monitor first. Another matchframe might would then bring in
> > the source clip (or sync clip) that was used in the stringout.
> >
> > Long standing request, most helpful in many scenarios, but very much so
> > when using file-based camcorders on documentaries. You often want to be
> > able to scroll through a bunch of B-roll shots from the source monitor,
> you
> > often don't want each individual shot to be its own clip, which you have
> to
> > load. Much like the tape days when material would come in as entire
> tapes,
> > and you could quickly browse through a tape (or a subclip you made from
> > that captured tape).
> >
> > J
> >
> > On 5 apr. 2013, at 21:37, Mark Spano <cutandcover@gmail.com<javascript:_e({},
> 'cvml', 'cutandcover%40gmail.com');>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > When I create sync sequences, I often make my subsequences and then
> > > AutoSync them so that they become like a subclip. Then a double-click
> > opens
> > > them in the Source monitor - no dragging necessary. Is that what you're
> > > trying to do?
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: [Avid-L2] Creating a clip from a sequence: NEW FR: Subsequence behavior

Sounds like a Compound Clip from that funny NLE that came out last year
from the boys in Cupertino.

On Friday, April 5, 2013, Job ter Burg (L2B) wrote:

> **
>
>
>
> Yes, but your method requires there are no edits inside those subsequences
> (AutoSync won't AutoSync if there's any cut).
>
> What many folks have been asking is a way to build select rolls or
> stringouts, and use those sequences as matchframeable sources.
>
> So I compile a bunch of different pieces of picture and sound into a
> stringout or selects reel, I then would for instance right-click the
> sequence in its bin and label it a source roll or stringout or selects
> roll. When I then double click that selects reel in the bin, it opens in
> the source monitor, not the record monitor.
>
> Also, when I cut from such a stringout I might want the clips in the
> timeline to refer to the name of the stringout (preferably optional). And
> when I have cut in some shots from a stringout into a sequence, and I park
> in that new sequence and hit matchframe, I'd like the stringout to appear
> in the source monitor first. Another matchframe might would then bring in
> the source clip (or sync clip) that was used in the stringout.
>
> Long standing request, most helpful in many scenarios, but very much so
> when using file-based camcorders on documentaries. You often want to be
> able to scroll through a bunch of B-roll shots from the source monitor, you
> often don't want each individual shot to be its own clip, which you have to
> load. Much like the tape days when material would come in as entire tapes,
> and you could quickly browse through a tape (or a subclip you made from
> that captured tape).
>
> J
>
> On 5 apr. 2013, at 21:37, Mark Spano <cutandcover@gmail.com<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'cutandcover%40gmail.com');>>
> wrote:
>
> > When I create sync sequences, I often make my subsequences and then
> > AutoSync them so that they become like a subclip. Then a double-click
> opens
> > them in the Source monitor - no dragging necessary. Is that what you're
> > trying to do?
>
>
>


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Re: [Avid-L2] Creating a clip from a sequence: NEW FR: Subsequence behavior

 


Yes, but your method requires there are no edits inside those subsequences (AutoSync won't AutoSync if there's any cut).

What many folks have been asking is a way to build select rolls or stringouts, and use those sequences as matchframeable sources.

So I compile a bunch of different pieces of picture and sound into a stringout or selects reel, I then would for instance right-click the sequence in its bin and label it a source roll or stringout or selects roll. When I then double click that selects reel in the bin, it opens in the source monitor, not the record monitor.

Also, when I cut from such a stringout I might want the clips in the timeline to refer to the name of the stringout (preferably optional). And when I have cut in some shots from a stringout into a sequence, and I park in that new sequence and hit matchframe, I'd like the stringout to appear in the source monitor first. Another matchframe might would then bring in the source clip (or sync clip) that was used in the stringout.

Long standing request, most helpful in many scenarios, but very much so when using file-based camcorders on documentaries. You often want to be able to scroll through a bunch of B-roll shots from the source monitor, you often don't want each individual shot to be its own clip, which you have to load. Much like the tape days when material would come in as entire tapes, and you could quickly browse through a tape (or a subclip you made from that captured tape).

J

On 5 apr. 2013, at 21:37, Mark Spano <cutandcover@gmail.com> wrote:

> When I create sync sequences, I often make my subsequences and then
> AutoSync them so that they become like a subclip. Then a double-click opens
> them in the Source monitor - no dragging necessary. Is that what you're
> trying to do?

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