Saturday, April 23, 2011

Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Symphony Nitris DX HD RGB 4:4:4 workflow ?

 

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23 apr 2011 kl. 23:04 skrev "Terence Curren" <tcurren@aol.com>:

> I wish! The reality is that the higher end clients know they are fine with 4:2:2 DNxHD. It's always the really low budget guys who have to do "2K, 4K, 4:4:4 because that's the best!" even though it will be lucky to get a DVD release...
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Bouke" <bouke@...> wrote:
> >
> > Ok, i can take the twenty projects.
> > Well, i'm running a one man shop nowadays, and don't do a lot of editing,
> > and i STILL have 8 projects at the same time.
> > BUT, (and this is where i want to make my point (for those who don't know
> > me...)
> >
> > If George Lucas is satisfied with shooting HDcam for a feature, and your
> > clients want uncompressed RGB, they have to pay a premium.
> > Now, if clients pay a premium, giving them dedicated storage (solid state if
> > needed for speed) is nothing compared to the coffee / custom clothed coffee
> > girls they also require to keep them happy.
> >
> > Right?
> >
> > Bouke (who really needs to set up a company in tinseltown...)
> >
> >
> >
> > VideoToolShed
> > van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
> > 6512 AS NIJMEGEN
> > The Netherlands
> > +31 24 3553311
> > www.videotoolshed.com
> > For large files:
> > http://dropbox.yousendit.com/BoukeVahl998172
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Terence Curren" <tcurren@...>
> > To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 8:01 PM
> > Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Symphony Nitris DX HD RGB 4:4:4 workflow ?
> >
> >
> > Bouke,
> >
> > At any given time we can have twenty or more projects on our shared
> > storage. That is a lot of storage. Add to that multiple systems hitting
> > those at the same time and you need the bandwidth.
> >
> > Also, RAID 5 doesn't deliver the performance needed for 4:4:4 HD. So, I have
> > to mirror to protect the data from accidental loss. Now it eats up twice as
> > much space. It's amazing how fast 36 TB disappears in this situation.
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Bouke" <bouke@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Then please enlighten me what finishing is about, as i still fail to see
> > > where the huge amount of data comes from...
> > > (speed i can understand though, but that is hardly a problem nowadays...)
> > >
> > > Bouke
> > >
> > > VideoToolShed
> > > van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
> > > 6512 AS NIJMEGEN
> > > The Netherlands
> > > +31 24 3553311
> > > www.videotoolshed.com
> > > For large files:
> > > http://dropbox.yousendit.com/BoukeVahl998172
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Terence Curren" <tcurren@>
> > > To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 5:13 PM
> > > Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Symphony Nitris DX HD RGB 4:4:4 workflow ?
> > >
> > >
> > > This is for finishing. If we were only working on one project at a time,
> > > no
> > > problem with 3TB of storage. Fortunately, that is not the case here.
> > >
> > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Bouke" <bouke@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > eeer, that is, what, 200 MB / sec?
> > > > So a feature fills 3 terrabyte including renders and stuff?
> > > > Isn't this a typical reason to do offline / conform?
> > > > (iow, i don't see the problem (yet...))
> > > >
> > > > Bouke
> > > >
> > > > VideoToolShed
> > > > van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
> > > > 6512 AS NIJMEGEN
> > > > The Netherlands
> > > > +31 24 3553311
> > > > www.videotoolshed.com
> > > > For large files:
> > > > http://dropbox.yousendit.com/BoukeVahl998172
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Terence Curren" <tcurren@>
> > > > To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 4:36 PM
> > > > Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Symphony Nitris DX HD RGB 4:4:4 workflow ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > For 4:4:4, you have ONE option. Uncompressed 10 bit. Yeah I know, tons
> > > > of
> > > > high throughput storage. Doing a feature on it right now.
> > > >
> > > > The way you capture and output is through Dual Link through the Nitris
> > > > DX.
> > > > Remember, they have to HD inputs and outputs.
> > > >
> > > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Fabrice Altman" <fabricealtman@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > how is Symphony Nitris DX HD RGB 4:4:4 workflow made possible ?
> > > > >
> > > > > This from the Symphony about page :
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.avid.com/US/products/Symphony-Nitris-DX
> > > > >
> > > > > "Together, you get the real-time horsepower you need for
> > > > > high-throughput,
> > > > > high-quality HD RGB 4:4:4 and SD finishing."
> > > > >
> > > > > AFAIK, DNxHD is 4:2:2. Also you would need a Dual Link or 3G SDI
> > > > > output from the DX BOB which does not seem to be supported either.
> > > > >
> > > > > So how is 4:4:4 workflow made possible ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > F.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>

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