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Tuesday, May 15, 2012

[Avid-L2] Re: Was Sony OLED now Color Correction question...

I've watched SD in it. Looks okay. I haven't color corrected SD in it though. Or compared it to other HD monitors.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "ksirul" <kenavid2@...> wrote:
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> Another issue for us is that we still do some SD work. Both NTSC and PAL. I didn't even look at this during our OLED tests. Anyone??
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> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Inhofer <elists@> wrote:
> >
> > John,
> >
> > Thanks for that great explanation of your workflow. Over on the Tao I have
> > members continually flummoxed on this issue of displays and display
> > technology. I'm very well familiar with your frustrations. My comments are
> > below.
> >
> > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 1:45 AM, johnrobmoore <bigfish@> wrote:
> >
> > > I can get used to any monitor over time but having spent the last 3
> > > years with the JVC DT 24 variety I have had to rely heavily on the scopes.
> > > I have to be mindful of being square in front of the monitor etc...
> > >
> > My experience with the FSI is completely different (which was my first LCD
> > experience).
> >
> > In fact - over the past year I'm finding myself using the scopes less and
> > less (except the past few weeks when I've been grading using histograms -
> > to see what the Baselight guys like so much about it) and letting my eyes
> > tell me what to do. I still do the initial primary corrections using scopes
> > - but then I switch to my eyes. Then, as I finish up the grade, I'll take a
> > look at the scopes to be sure they agree with my eyes and to see what kind
> > of clipping I need to look for.
> >
> > > Also on a series I just finished where I got the Sony monitor after the
> > > first few episodes upon comparison I can see a difference in the way I
> > > color corrected. This was mostly due to the Plasma we had been using didn't
> > > handle highlights well so I would pull down the gain more to make up for
> > > the monitors blooming like quality.
> > >
> > If I read you correctly - you were grading off two monitors. I really
> > believe that's a recipe for disaster. I don't run with a second monitor in
> > the room. If I did, it would be a Plasma. But it HAS to match the LCD. I
> > know a few guys running this kind of setup and they rarely get clients
> > pointing to the plasma saying, "I like that one better."
> >
> > If another monitor in the room is forcing you to change the way you grade
> > to your hero monitor - there's a big problem.
> >
> > LCD or not - it just shouldn't be that way.
> >
> > I can tell you, I did relax considerably when I removed my CRT from the
> > room and ran the FSI LCD exclusively. I learned to trust the LCD. And once
> > my eyes adjusted to the lack of pop (a problem for LCDs) I graded just fine
> > with it. I did set the gamma to 2.35 for a long time, which helped it look
> > a bit more CRT-like. But I've taken to dropping it to 2.2 since so much of
> > my work needs to work for computer displays as well as broadcast.
> >
> > I thought I'd hate grading at 2.2. But it's proven to less of an issue than
> > I thought.
> >
> > > I look forward to seeing the Flanders monitor to see how it compares
> > >
> > Certainly I look forward to hearing how it compares to the LCD you've been
> > using. But it'll be a tough comparison now that you've moved to the OLED.
> >
> > > I had the opportunity to work my first Sony monitor project on a
> > > documentary that was originally color corrected 4:4:4 and the image was
> > > stunning. I've only had my Sony a few months so I don't know how much the
> > > drift issue will be in the long haul but I think my next wishlist item will
> > > be a probe for that.
> > >
> > The drift I was seeing occurred across 4 days. This was a PVM OLED - one of
> > the first off the line (or so I am told).
> >
> > I scanned through this and the original thread but didn't see if you
> > mentioned if you're using the PVM or BVM?
> >
> >
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