Thursday, November 10, 2016

Re: [Avid-L2] Sony Camera Codec XAVC can't ama link in Avid

 

I have never tried rewrapping I admit.

Sony's own format guide for XAVC in AVID recommends transcoding.

Sony references not needing to REWRAP, when using Adobe Premiere also...
Meaning they know what rewrapping is...

Meh, since Bouke has a free trial of MP4 to QT, definitely use it and see
if it works.

I still stand by transcoding to new masters as the best option in the end.

On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 7:48 AM, Shane Ross shanerosseditor@yahoo.com
[Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

>
>
> Rewrapping does preserve every ounce of quality, yes. Also doesn't
> increase file size. But it still leaves it H.264 and Avid doesn't do well
> with that format.
>
> Shane
>
> Sent from my pocket calculator.
>
> On Nov 10, 2016, at 6:50 AM, 'Edit B' bouke@editb.nl [Avid-L2] <
> Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> 
> Hi Liam
> I have to disagree..
> There is no need to transcode. Just a re-wrap to .mov will do the trick.
> That means no image degradation, practical no time loss, no increase in
> data.
> Toy with the Mp4 to QT, you'll see.
> (The free demo is just fine.)
>
> Bouke
>
> VideoToolShed
> van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
> 6512 AS NIJMEGEN, the Netherlands
> if you want to send me big files, use this:
> www.videotoolshed.wetransfer.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Liam Johnson EditorLiam@gmail.com [Avid-L2]
> <EditorLiam@gmail.com+[Avid-L2]>
> *To:* Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com ; Bouke <bouke@editb.nl>
> *Cc:* bigfish@pacbell.net
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 10, 2016 8:54 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Avid-L2] Sony Camera Codec XAVC can't ama link in Avid
>
>
>
> XAVC is notoriously a problem in AVID... the only real way to use it is to
> transcode your media into a new master format, meaning you will not be
> going back to the XAVC originals during online.
> I prefer ProRes 422 but a DNx175 works well also... remember these are the
> new masters, so anything you do to skimp on size affects quality and you
> are stuck with that quality from then on.
>
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 9:33 PM, Bouke bouke@editb.nl [Avid-L2] <
> Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> you can always give this a shot
>> https://www.videotoolshed.com/other/mp4-to-qt/
>>
>> It recognises the metadata in the Mp4 (Sony writes an XML that stores TC)
>> and, fast, no video transcoding, and it will ama link then.
>>
>> Bouke
>>
>> Edit 'B / VideoToolShed.com
>> van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
>> 6512 AS Nijmegen
>> +31 6 21817248
>>
>> On Nov 10, 2016, at 05:48, bigfish@pacbell.net [Avid-L2] <
>> Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> When I looked closer at the file folder name it said something about Sony
>> SLR or dSLR. So would that be one of those "Action Cams"? One of the
>> freelance sharp AE's pulled out a copy of FLV Crunch and suggested
>> rewrapping to .mov. I left while they were processing the first two
>> files. I would assume once it is turned to .mov it will ama link.
>>
>> I'll I need is one more new format, standard or aspect ratio and I think
>> I might just have to do something that will make editing great again. ;-(
>>
>>
>> ---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <Greg@...> wrote :
>>
>> micro SD is the odd thing. Could be one of those sony 'action cams'
>> (their version of gopro)?? Try Resolve - it will play dern near everything.
>>
>> Also, I've noticed that XAVC is a serious processor hog for AMA or
>> resolve - may not even play real time so conversion probably a must. The
>> cameras mostly seem to have purpose-built encoders for whatever their weird
>> format.
>>
>> gh
>> ----------------------------------------------------
>> Greg Huson
>> Chief
>> Secret Headquarters, Inc
>> Production / Post Production
>> Culver City, CA
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>>
>> > On Nov 9, 2016, at 5:20 PM, John Moore bigfish@... [Avid-L2] <
>> Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > We have some media from what appears to be a Sony Camera shot on a
>> microSD card. We haven't heard back from the field but I think last season
>> they were shooting with the FS-7 on a small rail rig. It doesn't seem to
>> ama link and I have the following ama plugins installed:
>> >
>> > AMA Plugin Info:
>> >
>> > MediaCollector MVP Plug-In Avid Technology, Inc. 2.1.0.3333
>> > AS-11 Plug-In Avid Technology, Inc. 1.4.0.8905
>> > AVCHD MSP Plug-In Avid Technology, Inc. 1.3.5.8905
>> > Avid MXF MSP Plug-In Avid Technology, Inc. 2.1.0.8905
>> > MSP_MXF Plug-In Avid Technology, Inc. 1.12.2.8905
>> > WaveAiff Plug-In Avid Technology, Inc. 1.4.0.8905
>> > AVCHD MVP Plug-In Avid Technology, Inc. 1.3.5.8905
>> > QuickTime Plug-In Avid Technology, Inc. 1.6.0.8905
>> > AS-02 Plug-In Avid Technology, Inc. 1.4.0.8905
>> > Avid Image Sequencer Plug-In Avid Technology, Inc. 1.2.0.8905
>> > MVP_MSP_SonyXDCAMEX_64bit Sony Corporation 1.9200
>> > SonyXDCAM_64bit Sony Corporation 3.5000.0.522
>> >
>> > Anybody have a guess as to what the mystery camera, I'm assuming Sony,
>> is. The clips are named with a.mp4 at the end. Also the clips will play in
>> QTX but not in QT7.
>> >
>> >
>> > Here is the Media Info read out on the files:
>> >
>> > Format : XAVC
>> > Codec ID : XAVC (XAVC/mp42/iso2)
>> > File size : 10.8 GiB
>> > Duration : 29 min
>> > Overall bit rate mode : Variable
>> > Overall bit rate : 51.6 Mb/s
>> > Encoded date : UTC 2016-11-07 22:50:13
>> > Tagged date : UTC 2016-11-07 22:50:13
>> > Video
>> > ID : 1
>> > Format : AVC
>> > Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
>> > Format profile : High@L4.1
>> > Format settings, CABAC : Yes
>> > Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames
>> > Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=6
>> > Codec ID : avc1
>> > Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
>> > Duration : 29 min
>> > Bit rate mode : Variable
>> > Bit rate : 49.9 Mb/s
>> > Maximum bit rate : 60.0 Mb/s
>> > Width : 1 920 pixels
>> > Height : 1 080 pixels
>> > Display aspect ratio : 16:9
>> > Frame rate mode : Constant
>> > Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
>> > Standard : NTSC
>> > Color space : YUV
>> > Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
>> > Bit depth : 8 bits
>> > Scan type : Progressive
>> > Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 1.004
>> > Stream size : 10.4 GiB (97%)
>> > Encoded date : UTC 2016-11-07 22:50:13
>> > Tagged date : UTC 2016-11-07 22:50:13
>> > Color range : Limited
>> > Color primaries : BT.709
>> > Transfer characteristics : IEC 61966-2-4
>> > Matrix coefficients : BT.709
>> >
>> > John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@...
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
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