Thursday, November 10, 2016

Re: [Avid-L2] Sony Camera Codec XAVC can't ama link in Avid

 

oops, attached, the wrong screenshot there... at least it wasn't an
embarrassing one :P

On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Liam Johnson <editorliam@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have never tried rewrapping I admit.
>
> Sony's own format guide for XAVC in AVID recommends transcoding.
>
> Sony references not needing to REWRAP, when using Adobe Premiere also...
> Meaning they know what rewrapping is...
>
> Meh, since Bouke has a free trial of MP4 to QT, definitely use it and see
> if it works.
>
> I still stand by transcoding to new masters as the best option in the end.
>
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 7:48 AM, Shane Ross shanerosseditor@yahoo.com
> [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Rewrapping does preserve every ounce of quality, yes. Also doesn't
>> increase file size. But it still leaves it H.264 and Avid doesn't do well
>> with that format.
>>
>> Shane
>>
>> Sent from my pocket calculator.
>>
>> On Nov 10, 2016, at 6:50 AM, 'Edit B' bouke@editb.nl [Avid-L2] <
>> Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>> Hi Liam
>> I have to disagree..
>> There is no need to transcode. Just a re-wrap to .mov will do the trick.
>> That means no image degradation, practical no time loss, no increase in
>> data.
>> Toy with the Mp4 to QT, you'll see.
>> (The free demo is just fine.)
>>
>> Bouke
>>
>> VideoToolShed
>> van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
>> 6512 AS NIJMEGEN, the Netherlands
>> if you want to send me big files, use this:
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>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Liam Johnson EditorLiam@gmail.com [Avid-L2]
>> <EditorLiam@gmail.com+[Avid-L2]>
>> *To:* Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com ; Bouke <bouke@editb.nl>
>> *Cc:* bigfish@pacbell.net
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 10, 2016 8:54 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Avid-L2] Sony Camera Codec XAVC can't ama link in Avid
>>
>>
>>
>> XAVC is notoriously a problem in AVID... the only real way to use it is
>> to transcode your media into a new master format, meaning you will not be
>> going back to the XAVC originals during online.
>> I prefer ProRes 422 but a DNx175 works well also... remember these are
>> the new masters, so anything you do to skimp on size affects quality and
>> you are stuck with that quality from then on.
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 9:33 PM, Bouke bouke@editb.nl [Avid-L2] <
>> Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> you can always give this a shot
>>> https://www.videotoolshed.com/other/mp4-to-qt/
>>>
>>> It recognises the metadata in the Mp4 (Sony writes an XML that stores TC)
>>> and, fast, no video transcoding, and it will ama link then.
>>>
>>> Bouke
>>>
>>> Edit 'B / VideoToolShed.com
>>> van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
>>> 6512 AS Nijmegen
>>> +31 6 21817248
>>>
>>> On Nov 10, 2016, at 05:48, bigfish@pacbell.net [Avid-L2] <
>>> Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> When I looked closer at the file folder name it said something about
>>> Sony SLR or dSLR. So would that be one of those "Action Cams"? One of the
>>> freelance sharp AE's pulled out a copy of FLV Crunch and suggested
>>> rewrapping to .mov. I left while they were processing the first two
>>> files. I would assume once it is turned to .mov it will ama link.
>>>
>>> I'll I need is one more new format, standard or aspect ratio and I think
>>> I might just have to do something that will make editing great again. ;-(
>>>
>>>
>>> ---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <Greg@...> wrote :
>>>
>>> micro SD is the odd thing. Could be one of those sony 'action cams'
>>> (their version of gopro)?? Try Resolve - it will play dern near everything.
>>>
>>> Also, I've noticed that XAVC is a serious processor hog for AMA or
>>> resolve - may not even play real time so conversion probably a must. The
>>> cameras mostly seem to have purpose-built encoders for whatever their weird
>>> format.
>>>
>>> gh
>>> ----------------------------------------------------
>>> Greg Huson
>>> Chief
>>> Secret Headquarters, Inc
>>> Production / Post Production
>>> Culver City, CA
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>>> www.SecretHQ.com
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>>>
>>> > On Nov 9, 2016, at 5:20 PM, John Moore bigfish@... [Avid-L2] <
>>> Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > We have some media from what appears to be a Sony Camera shot on a
>>> microSD card. We haven't heard back from the field but I think last season
>>> they were shooting with the FS-7 on a small rail rig. It doesn't seem to
>>> ama link and I have the following ama plugins installed:
>>> >
>>> > AMA Plugin Info:
>>> >
>>> > MediaCollector MVP Plug-In Avid Technology, Inc. 2.1.0.3333
>>> > AS-11 Plug-In Avid Technology, Inc. 1.4.0.8905
>>> > AVCHD MSP Plug-In Avid Technology, Inc. 1.3.5.8905
>>> > Avid MXF MSP Plug-In Avid Technology, Inc. 2.1.0.8905
>>> > MSP_MXF Plug-In Avid Technology, Inc. 1.12.2.8905
>>> > WaveAiff Plug-In Avid Technology, Inc. 1.4.0.8905
>>> > AVCHD MVP Plug-In Avid Technology, Inc. 1.3.5.8905
>>> > QuickTime Plug-In Avid Technology, Inc. 1.6.0.8905
>>> > AS-02 Plug-In Avid Technology, Inc. 1.4.0.8905
>>> > Avid Image Sequencer Plug-In Avid Technology, Inc. 1.2.0.8905
>>> > MVP_MSP_SonyXDCAMEX_64bit Sony Corporation 1.9200
>>> > SonyXDCAM_64bit Sony Corporation 3.5000.0.522
>>> >
>>> > Anybody have a guess as to what the mystery camera, I'm assuming Sony,
>>> is. The clips are named with a.mp4 at the end. Also the clips will play in
>>> QTX but not in QT7.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Here is the Media Info read out on the files:
>>> >
>>> > Format : XAVC
>>> > Codec ID : XAVC (XAVC/mp42/iso2)
>>> > File size : 10.8 GiB
>>> > Duration : 29 min
>>> > Overall bit rate mode : Variable
>>> > Overall bit rate : 51.6 Mb/s
>>> > Encoded date : UTC 2016-11-07 22:50:13
>>> > Tagged date : UTC 2016-11-07 22:50:13
>>> > Video
>>> > ID : 1
>>> > Format : AVC
>>> > Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
>>> > Format profile : High@L4.1
>>> > Format settings, CABAC : Yes
>>> > Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames
>>> > Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=6
>>> > Codec ID : avc1
>>> > Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
>>> > Duration : 29 min
>>> > Bit rate mode : Variable
>>> > Bit rate : 49.9 Mb/s
>>> > Maximum bit rate : 60.0 Mb/s
>>> > Width : 1 920 pixels
>>> > Height : 1 080 pixels
>>> > Display aspect ratio : 16:9
>>> > Frame rate mode : Constant
>>> > Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
>>> > Standard : NTSC
>>> > Color space : YUV
>>> > Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
>>> > Bit depth : 8 bits
>>> > Scan type : Progressive
>>> > Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 1.004
>>> > Stream size : 10.4 GiB (97%)
>>> > Encoded date : UTC 2016-11-07 22:50:13
>>> > Tagged date : UTC 2016-11-07 22:50:13
>>> > Color range : Limited
>>> > Color primaries : BT.709
>>> > Transfer characteristics : IEC 61966-2-4
>>> > Matrix coefficients : BT.709
>>> >
>>> > John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@...
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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