Friday, November 20, 2015

Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Flame Conversion of 59.94 existing project to 23.976?

 

The current flame allows you to change the frame rate of any clip or sequence in the same way as after effects. However, depending on how they created the clip if for instance it had a lot of painting it is possible that layers were committed as they went.

If that is the case get them to supply an image sequence - then you can edit in frame for frame clips - you can then add a speed effect to get the correct duration of just tweak your edit a bit - probably cheaper than paying for a flame redo.

Note the reformat of a clip has only Been possible in flame since flame 2013 extension 1 (aka 20th anniversary edition).

Mike

On 20 Nov 2015, at 2:04 AM, bigfish@pacbell.net [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Mr. Mike,
You are Mr. Flame from all your post so I have a Flame question.  My next series is going to be done in 23.976 and all the material has been shot 23.976.  By mistake we ordered 29.97/59.94 for the graphics package.  Obviously those graphics and main title don't work well going back to 23.976.

The Post supervisor informed them of our mistake and asked that they redo the graphics in 23.976.  To me and my limited After Effects experience it is possible to go back to an AE composition and switch it to 23.976 and rerender.  All the source material we gave the graphics folks was 23.976 so I figured they would work in 23.976 and convert in the end.  We got back the revised graphics and it looks like the graphics folks just took their original delivery 59.94 main title and converted that back to 23.976 as we see duplicate frames etc...

We've learned the open was done in Flame.  Can you explain to me how a Flame project would be structured given the source material camera masters was 23.976 and the initial delivery was to 29.97I/59.94.  Would you work in 23.976 till the final output and then add pulldown?  Or do you commit to frame rate on input to the project so everything is converted to 59.94 on ingest?  Bottom line given it was initially done as a 59.94 delivery is it really complicated to go back to the project and redo it in 23.976?  I'm guessing it is but I don't have any flame experience and I'm trying to apply After Effects ability to render out to various frame rates from a 23.976 composition.  Any basics you can provide will help us better understand why the revised graphics aren't as clean as we think they should be will be appreciated.

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