Sorry L2 I meant to send this off list but feel free to chime in if you have any knowledge in this area.
---In avid-l2@yahoogroups.com, <bigfish@...> wrote :
Mr. Mike,
You are Mr. Flame from all your post so I have a Flame question. My next series is going to be done in 23.976 and all the material has been shot 23.976. By mistake we ordered 29.97/59.94 for the graphics package. Obviously those graphics and main title don't work well going back to 23.976.
The Post supervisor informed them of our mistake and asked that they redo the graphics in 23.976. To me and my limited After Effects experience it is possible to go back to an AE composition and switch it to 23.976 and rerender. All the source material we gave the graphics folks was 23.976 so I figured they would work in 23.976 and convert in the end. We got back the revised graphics and it looks like the graphics folks just took their original delivery 59.94 main title and converted that back to 23.976 as we see duplicate frames etc...
We've learned the open was done in Flame. Can you explain to me how a Flame project would be structured given the source material camera masters was 23.976 and the initial delivery was to 29.97I/59.94. Would you work in 23.976 till the final output and then add pulldown? Or do you commit to frame rate on input to the project so everything is converted to 59.94 on ingest? Bottom line given it was initially done as a 59.94 delivery is it really complicated to go back to the project and redo it in 23.976? I'm guessing it is but I don't have any flame experience and I'm trying to apply After Effects ability to render out to various frame rates from a 23.976 composition. Any basics you can provide will help us better understand why the revised graphics aren't as clean as we think they should be will be appreciated.
You are Mr. Flame from all your post so I have a Flame question. My next series is going to be done in 23.976 and all the material has been shot 23.976. By mistake we ordered 29.97/59.94 for the graphics package. Obviously those graphics and main title don't work well going back to 23.976.
The Post supervisor informed them of our mistake and asked that they redo the graphics in 23.976. To me and my limited After Effects experience it is possible to go back to an AE composition and switch it to 23.976 and rerender. All the source material we gave the graphics folks was 23.976 so I figured they would work in 23.976 and convert in the end. We got back the revised graphics and it looks like the graphics folks just took their original delivery 59.94 main title and converted that back to 23.976 as we see duplicate frames etc...
We've learned the open was done in Flame. Can you explain to me how a Flame project would be structured given the source material camera masters was 23.976 and the initial delivery was to 29.97I/59.94. Would you work in 23.976 till the final output and then add pulldown? Or do you commit to frame rate on input to the project so everything is converted to 59.94 on ingest? Bottom line given it was initially done as a 59.94 delivery is it really complicated to go back to the project and redo it in 23.976? I'm guessing it is but I don't have any flame experience and I'm trying to apply After Effects ability to render out to various frame rates from a 23.976 composition. Any basics you can provide will help us better understand why the revised graphics aren't as clean as we think they should be will be appreciated.
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