The current Teranex (2D) from Blackmagic doesn't do mixed cadence detection well (or at all). Many attempts will pull out differing field/frame combinations, and its scene detect causes nice stutters in the resulting output. Noise reduction is nice, but makes the generally OK upscale softer to a point where it's not so usable (in comparison to a better software upscale). Noise reduction on the 2D is best in 1:1 scaling mode, on progressive material. Scene detect is best left off, and your Media Composer is best at removing pulldown (place cuts, promote adapters, detect cadence).
I could try to post examples, but my time is better spent not doing that. Your own experience will win out over my exampling anyway - but I can say "in my experience" the scaling in Media Composer "sucks", the Teranex is "OK", and Media Encoder / After Effects / Photoshop is "great".On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Terence Curren <tcurren@aol.com> wrote:
Noise reduction? Mixed cadence 3:2 removal? It would be great if you could post some examples of comparisons. I don't know if anyone has done that.
I am a "good operator" and very familiar with all of the options the Teranex has. Its up-scaling is surpassed by Adobe's.
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From: Mark Spano <cutandcover@gmail.com>To: Terence Curren <tcurren@aol.com>
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I am a "good operator" and very familiar with all of the options the Teranex has. Its up-scaling is surpassed by Adobe's.
On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Terence Curren <tcurren@aol.com> wrote:
The caveat is that Teranex has a lot of adjustment options. A good operator should be able to at least match if not blow away Media Encoder.
Had to resize some SD to HD recently, and in a shootout between Teranex and this, Media Encoder wins by a long shot.
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Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Transcode to HD vs. Teranex
If you have Adobe Creative Cloud, use Media Encoder with "Maximum Render Quality" checked. Had to resize some SD to HD recently, and in a shootout between Teranex and this, Media Encoder wins by a long shot.Don't bother with Avid's resize - it's generally terrible even on highest quality.
On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Terence Curren tcurren@aol.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Hi Ben,
Teranex does a better job in general than Avid resize, but I don't know how much difference it will make on something coming from DVD anyway.
Terence Curren
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Sent: Tue, Oct 13, 2015 12:34 pm
Subject: Transcode to HD vs. Teranex
TO:
Terry Curren, and
the Avid-L2 Hooligans
Hi Terry and L2 gang,
Question from a friend:
"If we capture from an SD DVD, which is better:
convert to HD inside of Avid or to convert with a Teranex before it goes into Avid?"
Putting the time difference aside, is there a noticeable quality difference in the end?
I seem to remember a discussion on this topic a looong time ago, and my recollection is that Teranex wins.
Am I correct?
Thanks for any insights Terry and L2-ers.
Cheers,
Benjamin
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