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On Jul 13, 2015, at 11:19, bigfish@pacbell.net [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> I use QT Change all the time to add a time code track and that doesn't require me to do a Save As to make it a self contained file so I get what you are saying. Is adding a Closed Captioning Track by extracting it from one file and then adding it to the captionless file and then just doing a save, not a Save As to a new file just as self contained as when I add Time Code in QT change? If so then I think the file I made is self contained.
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> A few weeks back when I was troubleshooting the file issues the network was having and I was taking the QT ref of audio into QT Pro with 12 tracks and doing a save as to get a self contained QT of the audio. I then took a ProResHQ file of just the video and added that to the audio. At that point I don't remember if I did a Save As or just a Save but I did end up with a single file with 12 mono audio stems that seemed to work as a self contained file. I don't recall looking at the file sizes before and after this process. I would think that would indicate that the data had been added into a single file but I don't know for sure.
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> So the bottom line is are there things about Closed Caption tracks and the time code tracks, like QT change adds, that allow immediately adding to the existing file in a destructive manner with just a save? And do audio and video tracks act the same way when inserted into a file and just saved is that also a destructive save so the resulting file is self contained?
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> I don't get it.
> Altering a file and not saving is NOT altering the file.
> There is however a difference between making a new copy and doing a destructive edit to a file.
> So, it's a destructive operation, effectively altering the original file.
> (Like QTchange does.)
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> There is no magic in QT caption files. You can copy/paste them from one file to another, and do a 'save' .
> QT pro will do the destructive edit for you, and you can repeat that over and over again, without too much danger.
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> From: Bogdan Grigorescu bogdan_grigorescu@... [Avid-L2]
> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com ; bigfish@...
> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 7:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Closed Captioning Track in QT .mov Extracting and Reinserting?
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> 'Perhaps that software has some magic code that doesn't require a resave?'
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> It does - that's why it costs 6K
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> From: "bigfish@... [Avid-L2]" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 10:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Closed Captioning Track in QT .mov Extracting and Reinserting?
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> So it just so happened that the file I extracted the closed captioning from lives on the shuttle drive we tested on a different computer and I guess that's why it worked on another station. Very subtle but I get it. I think what I could have done was insert the captioning to my QT Ref file exported from Avid. Then when I did that "Save As" everything including the Closed Captioning Track would be baked into the resulting self contained file.
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> I've been told they just insert the captioning to our existing file using mac caption. Perhaps that software has some magic code that doesn't require a resave?
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> ---In avid-l2@yahoogroups.com, <bogdan_grigorescu@...> wrote :
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> you definitely need to re-save as self contained movie. If you don't and the source is not available, no captions for you. Works exactly as QT Ref.
> you can check quickly by removing the original, rejected file, from the shuttle.
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> From: "bigfish@... [Avid-L2]" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
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> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 9:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Closed Captioning Track in QT .mov Extracting and Reinserting?
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> Very good point. I hadn't thought of that. The file did open on a completely different computer from the shuttle drive and displayed proper captioning data and this was a pc computer not a mac like I did the original inserting of the caption file. From that I don't think it behaves like a QT Ref in this case. I am however going to let the facility know to check the captioning before that upload the file. I will defer to their engineers but I will be asking very specifically why this file is not okay if they reject it. I don't want to paint a bad picture but quite often I have seen dub houses suggest and preform unnecessary work using expensive equipment etc... I'm like to think there not just trying to make extra profit but having seen so much of this it would seem to imply sometimes their motives are questionable. I do understand the need to stay in business but not the "Stick it to the client whenever possible approach."
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