This IS the Avid L2: Re: [Avid-L2] Cine Deck does insert Edits? Somebody Pinch me

Friday, April 17, 2015

Re: [Avid-L2] Cine Deck does insert Edits? Somebody Pinch me

> With Cinedeck you can just QC the insert
No, officially you can't, see my previous post...

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From: tcurren@aol.com [Avid-L2]
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 1:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Cine Deck does insert Edits? Somebody Pinch me

It's not just the export time. You have now created a new master file. Which
means it needs to be QCed in it's entirety again. With Cinedeck you can just
QC the insert.

---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <jeff@...> wrote :

You simply re-wrap a pro-res recorded elsewhere- and then you can punch
into it- figure 12 minutes to re-wrap an hour long prores.

DNX quicktimes you can just punch into with Cinedeck.

The Clipster/Fuze doesn't have punch in- you put a fix in manually with
your DPX timeline, then re-export. If a Rhode schwartz product is dealing
with a non-dpx, you need to re-ingest and re-export the whole shebang.
This is where Cinedeck shines.

JDS

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On Apr 16, 2015, at 3:02 PM, bigfish@... [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:

The Cine Deck is even hipper than the "Hipster" app Greg H. used at Fremont
street to guide me to a "Sloppy Weiner" at the BunkHouse. While QT Pro has
this ability you have to flatten it out, resave, to end up with a single
file. That takes time, time I don't waste when inserting on tape. The Cine
Deck will punch in an insert but still it's a single file ready to go. This
is what I was told when I asked if it was using some AS-11 type of pointers
trickery to accomplish the insert. So I edit in my change into the file
that comes back with QC fixes or just creative changes and I'm done just
like tape. That's the way I'm understanding it. As far as this being easy
then why isn't everybody doing it? Venice can't right now so I was told at
Rhode Schwartz. Bottom line a deck like file recorder will save me the 3
hours ish of rebaking a long form show every time there is a change.

The multiple outputs to record more than one file at a time is also
attractive as long as I can punch into my second output file at the same
time. I'm told the insert is codec dependent so ProRes and DNX will insert
but something like H.264 won't. There are several other codec choices but I
don't know which ones will insert edit. It did sound like most of the
delivery codecs would support an insert.

I see that Greg H. mentions later in this thread that the Cine Deck only
works on it's own files. That I didn't know but it's not a deal breaker for
me.

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