People didn't buy it because it keyed terribly compared to a flame. Having run flame and ds side by side I can honestly say the image quality just wasn't as good. Which was fair enough given that back then flame ran on an onyx and ds quickly moved into a pc.
Personally I was most excited about maestro and media spectrum but we're still waiting for them to be released...
Mike
On 6 Aug, 2013, at 8:31 AM, "Scott" <switthaus@mac.com> wrote:
> For those of us that we're with DS in the Softimage days, the writing was on the wall the minute Avid bought the company. Suddenly they had a product that was more advanced than their flagship products. What to do? The MC-only crowd didn't buy in because "it didn't look like a media composer". So then DS would be the high end finishing box, but that would cut Symphony off at the knees. So, the great wisdom of Avid pretty much ignored it and hoped it would die. Only because of a loyal user-base and dedicated developers in Montreal did it survive this long. Finally marketing has killed it. I had hoped that Avid would have a pro video product line of two: MC for the cutting and DS for the higher end work. Oh well, we are stuck with MC, if you can find one to four-wall outside of the broadcast niche. RIP DS.
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> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Mikeparsons.tv" <mikeparsons.tv@...> wrote:
> >
> > I guess it lasted a lot longer than alias advance...
> >
> > It seems like only yesterday that avid was refusing to make an HD symphony as DS was their finishing product.
> >
> > Personally as an effects guy I really wanted to like DS. I already used Media composer, I used various node based compositors and I used flame, on
> > The surface it seemed like an idea blend of all three. But ultimately the grafted on media composer interface didn't really gel as well as it should - you could color correct with the built in avid tools, in an avx or in a node tree and it was never really quick to see what has been done when you took over someone else's job.
> >
> > But overall it was its strengths that were its weaknesses. None destructive paint is great for dust busting when you get a new grade from telecine, less so when it brings the system to its knees a few hundred brush strokes in. It's keyer was good at introduction but didn't keep pace with flames master keyer or key light etc. once the decision to make hd symphony was made it got very little love and stagnated. But for me as a irix the red hat user the windows virus was its downfall. Damn that interface was ugly.
> >
> > But as a system it was revolutionary, nodes in a timeline is the exciting new feature of smoke 2013 and the avid avx link brings a more powerful node based compositing system to all avid users in much the same way. And in the end that's pretty much all an edit system can hope to leave behind. To introduce new ideas that spread and become commonplace. In that regard ds was a success.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > On 6 Aug, 2013, at 6:27 AM, "Dom Q. Silverio" <domqsilverio@...> wrote:
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> > > Not like this is a surprise but....
> > > http://community.avid.com/forums/p/121484/699539.aspx#699539
> > >
> > > We bought 2 of them around version 7 I think. We had 1 request for it.
> > > Waste of good technology.
> > >
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