Wednesday, May 29, 2013

Re: [Avid-L2] Re: TC# to Frame# translation

 

You are correct to think it is the latter. I need to make list of which frames to use form the ArriRaw frame sequences. And while I work on being able to make a pull list that has the actual frame ranges in it, I believe that they have someone working on a way to take an EDL, open it as a CSV file, and convert the TC ranges to Frame ranges. So, coming at it from both sides I think we will find something that works.

Jay

On May 29, 2013, at 9:17 PM, johnrobmoore wrote:

> By start time code do you mean the start time code/ Frame Count of where the clip falls in the edited sequence or do you mean the start time code of the actual clip so the time code/ Frame Count would relate to the actual VFX clip sourced. I would think the latter but what do I know?
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> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Jay Mahavier <jay_mahavier@...> wrote:
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>> Oh, it would totally work, but I have 3857 master clips in this project. The field that would work best right now is the DPX column. But I will need to enter the info for each clip one at a time. And by "I" I mean the intern. And even though that's a paid gig, and this task includes sitting in a chair in the air-conditioning, it's still a total drag of a task. It would be really nice if there was a bin column that I could duplicate the Start TC column to and it would automatically math out the corresponding frame number so I could use it in a pull list for the VFX department. But I am going to give Bouke's suggestion a go.
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>> On May 29, 2013, at 6:50 PM, johnrobmoore wrote:
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>>> This is a very interesting workflow concern. I would think that going back to the original source bins and adding the extra metadata would ripple through the project. I asked our AE if in groups and multigroups if you go back and change the time code of an original source clip that was used to make the group if it would update in a sequence cut from the group clip and he wasn't sure. He did say if you change the clip name that does ripple through so maybe the time code would. If that does work I would think you adding another metadata element that's sort of like an aux time code that would ripple through but I don't have a suitable project to test this with. Keep us informed what you find. Nothing like a little more metadate to make our lives easier.
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>>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Jay Mahavier <jay_mahavier@> wrote:
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>>>> Hmmm, that does sound interesting. I need to look into that idea. I didn't consider needing this before they started to do the cut so I don't know if it's something that would work retroactively on the clips. Or if I would have to go back and overcut everything. But that might be a plan for future shows. So that somehow as they are making the Avid dailies media form the ArriRaw sequence that they load up the needed data in the DPX column or something. I may seriously take you up on that, but let me look into it a little bit before I ask you to do a bunch of unnecessary work.
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>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Jay
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>>>> On May 29, 2013, at 5:23 PM, Edit B wrote:
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>>>>> Jay,
>>>>> If you can live with an ALE export, and import with relink option, it's not a big deal for me to create an extra column with any kind of counter you want.
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>>>>> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] TC# to Frame# translation
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>>>>> not anywhere close. I need a column that converts the TC to a corresponding frame number. The file images sequences do not start at 0. Like I mentioned in my original post, if the master clip has a starting TC of 2:00:00:00 then the image sequence has a starting frame number of 172800.
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>>>>> Jay
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>>>>> On May 29, 2013, at 3:15 PM, Jeff Hedberg wrote:
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>>>>>> We do frame count EDLs by setting one of the AUX TC columns to 00:00:00:00, then use that as your source when making an EDL.
>>>>>> Would that get you what you are after?
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>>>>>> On May 29, 2013, at 2:54 PM, Jay Mahavier <jay_mahavier@> wrote:
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>>>>>>> I know that there is a bin column called TC24 that you can duplicate 30TC into and it will convert it to 24TC. Use to use it all the time when we were still capturing our dailies from DVcam, but needed to make 24TC EDLs for on-line with SR tapes.
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>>>>>>> But now that we are switching to file based I need a column that will convert TC to Frame count. Like 1:00:00:00 equals 86400 and 2:00:00:00 equals 172800 and so on. Because I need to make pull list that refer back to frame ranges in image sequences. And while there is the DPX and VFX columns it looks like I will have to fill out each one at a time. And I have 3857 master clips. I could really use a bin column that I can duplicate TC into and have it automatically generate the corresponding frame number. Maybe I'm overlooking it. Does anyone know of a simple way to get this done in Media Composer?
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>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Jay
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