This IS the Avid L2: Re: [Avid-L2] MC 5.5.3 Mac can't add tape names to some clips in the same folder?

Tuesday, April 2, 2013

Re: [Avid-L2] MC 5.5.3 Mac can't add tape names to some clips in the same folder?

FWIW, relinking via AMA is much better in 6.5.

On Monday, April 1, 2013, Andi Meek wrote:

> John, the amount of hoops i need to jump through to do a tapeless conform
> nowadays is crazy. It often takes me longer to relink than it would if i
> had had the rushes on digi. There are so many variations of adding tape
> name, relinking using x amount of variations of settings. When you start
> adding gopro, 5d etc then it really gets fun! I had a similar problem
> adding tape names the other day and the new fun came when i mounted an AMA
> volume and all the source timecode from my reference clips disappeared and
> would not come back until i started a new project. For me, XDCAM HD disks
> are the best middleground, they relink easily and if all else fails, they
> batch import super fast too. It was supposed to be so much easier. Sigh...
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> Andi
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> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <javascript:;>
> From: bigfish@pacbell.net <javascript:;>
> Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 02:24:05 +0000
> Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: MC 5.5.3 Mac can't add tape names to some clips in
> the same folder?
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> That's a very good point I will try that later but in some cases
> different frame rates for the XDCAM EX worked on some clips but not on
> others with the same frame rate. I did try clips individually and that
> sometimes allowed me to add a tape name to some of the XDCAM EX. I figured
> in those cases it was because of the batch modify that hit one bad clip and
> didn't do the others. It's only a few of the EX XDCAM clips that don't
> allow tape names to be added and the durations vary from 13 secs to almost
> 4 minutes for the clips that don't take tape names on the EX XDCAM side so
> there is inconsistency there. The DVCPro HD clips universally don't accept
> a tape name. That would fall in line with your differing frame rate idea
> and it would make some sense for the DF_NDF exception error as there must
> be some under the hood conversion for the DVCPro 60frame time code
> conversion to 30 frame code. I also found another interesting gotcha. I
> put the folder with the .movs I was ama'ing to on the same drive as the
> media. I then transcoded first to DNX 220 and then took those clips and
> transcoded them to DNX 45 making sure to click the audio box so the DNX 45
> clips got audio. I did all these transcodes to the internal raids on my
> MacPro and then copied the DNX 45 media to the external drive for the
> offline edit media which has the folder of original .movs. Then when I
> tried to relink the DNX 45 clips to the external drive some of the clips
> would relink thru ama to the .movs. When I specified DNX 45 as the
> specific relink resolution all but one relinked to the transcoded DNX 45
> media. The one that didn't still showed the resolution as DNX 45 but the
> icon was the ama style. Only after I deleted the original .mov's folder
> was I able to relink that clip to the transcoded non ama media. This
> happened to be one of the clips that did allow me to add a tape name. I
> notice a potential shortcoming to the new advance relink options. I wanted
> to relink by tape name and start time code only but the only choice is
> "Tape or Source File ID" or "Tape and Source File Name." I would think if
> I could select just "Tape" along with start time code I would be able to
> relink the clip to the DNX 45 vs. ama relinking issue but this is only
> speculation on my part.
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> I did note that the ama clips I added a tape name to didn't want to relink
> ama style until I remounted the volume in another bin and readded the tape
> name again. That's kind of a point for not addint a tape name which I know
> some people say they don't do any more. I'm always torn on this issue. No
> matter how many improvements to ama there still seem to be a lot more
> gotchas than the old standard ways of ingesting tape. I guess it's the
> best thing given all the crazy file formats some of which can only be
> ama'd. It's a little disappointing that even when I do all the intiial ama
> transcodes to DNX 220 and then transcode those to DNX45 I still find little
> bumps along that path which I thought were smooth sailing once you got it
> to Avid DNX media.
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> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <javascript:;>, Mark Spano <cutandcover@...>
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> > Doubt you can have one tape multiple frame rates. Sort by res/frame rate,
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> > then give each group a different tape name.
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> > On Monday, April 1, 2013, John Moore wrote:
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> > > I have a 43 gigish folder with footage. I can ama link to the
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> > > volume/folder and the clips appear. Some are XDCAM EX 35Mbits
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> > > some XDCAM EX 35Mbits (1080p/29.97, and some are DVCPro HD (1080i/60).
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> > > After ama linking the volume into a bin I highlighted all the clips and
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> > > modified the source to the bin name. Only some of the clips got the
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> > > name and the rest give an error message, "Exception:
> SM_DF_NDF_MISMATCH"
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> > > This happens when modifying multiple clips or single clips. None of
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> > > DVCPro HD clips would take a source Tape Name some of the XDCAM EX
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> > > (1080i/60) wouldn't take a tape name but all the XDCAM EX 35Mbits
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> > > (1080p/29.97) did take a tape name and an HDV (1080i/60) took the tape
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> > > name. I've also tried this on my mac SNDX 6.5.3 and I still get the
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> > > error plus a more errors when mounting the volume but if I click
> continue
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> > > all the clips show up and I can transcode them. Very weird. I thought
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> > > pretty robust for ama. Perhaps I don't need the tape name but I always
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> > > try to err on the side of caution and add one when I can. Any
> thoughts?
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> > > John Moore
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> > > Barking Trout Productions
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> > > Studio City, CA
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