Friday, August 24, 2012

Re: [Avid-L2] AMA Workflow with Transcoded Media Offline...

Yes, you can skip steps 3 and 4.... that had me confused for a while when you typed it.

You SHOULD edit with the .new files.

Then when you sequence is finished - you can 'hide' this transcoded media however you like, and relink the sequence to the AMA volume again.


Jeff

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Jeff Hedberg
Union Editorial
575 Broadway
6th floor
New York, NY 10012



On Aug 23, 2012, at 6:01 PM, michaeljshen76 wrote:

> Marcelo, glad to know your relinking worked.
>
> To follow up, though, I am currently thinking through an AMA workflow for an upcoming project. I would love input.
>
> My plan was:
>
> 1) Link to dailies as AMA Volume.
> 2) Transcode to ProRex MXF.
> 3) Delete .new clips.
> 4) Relink AMA clips to ProRes MXF files.
> 5) Edit with these clips and output at ProRes, BUT retain the option of relinking my sequence to the camera originals if I lose my MXF media or if I later want to uprez to a different codec.
>
> Jeff, judging from your response — and Marcelo's experience — I can skip Step 3 and 4, and just edit with the .new clips. Does this sound right? I'd been advised elsewhere not to edit with .new clips if I want to relink to AMA originals.
>
> I have run a bunch of tests at home but results have been a little inconsistent.
>
> Thanks for any advice.
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Marcelo Tavares <marcelotavares.cinema@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Bruce,
> >
> > Yes I know that I'll need to retranscode after delete the MXF files but my
> > problem was to have to select each individual clip in the batch import
> > process.
> >
> > With the relink workflow that Jeff sugested all clips from my timeline are
> > retranscoded without I need to select each individual clip!
> >
> > Thanks for the tip,
> > Marcelo
> >
> > Em quarta-feira, 22 de agosto de 2012, Bruce Tovsky escreveu:
> >
> > > hi marcelo
> > > i may have missed something here, but if you "delete the MXF files" you
> > > are deleting your transcodes. you will HAVE to retranscode after relinking.
> > > this is a normal process if you want to delete lo-rez transcodes and then
> > > retranscode to a higher rez codec - say, DNxHD 145 to DNxHD 220. this way
> > > you only need to do the high-bitrate transcodes on your final clips.
> > > b
> > >
> > > On Aug 22, 2012, at 5:15 PM, Marcelo Tavares wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks Jeff, it work but I was hoping to bring all the transcoded clips
> > > > online. With this workflow it modify my sequence changing the transcoded
> > > > clips with original AMA files and after that I need to transcode my
> > > > sequence.
> > > >
> > > > At least now I don't need to relink each clip at a time!
> > > >
> > > > Thank you very much!!
> > > > Marcelo
> > > >
> > > > Em quarta-feira, 22 de agosto de 2012, Jeff Hedberg escreveu:
> > > >
> > > > > Dont' 'batch import'
> > > > >
> > > > > Just load the AMA files again the same way you did in the original.
> > > > >
> > > > > Then
> > > > > 1. hilight all clips in AMA bin
> > > > > 2. choose sequence you want to relink
> > > > > 3. choose 'relink'
> > > > > 3a. make sure the line regarding AMA is selected
> > > > > 3b. I also make sure to choose the option to relink to selected files
> > > in
> > > > > other bins
> > > > >
> > > > > In theory - your sequence will now be the original footage instead of
> > > the
> > > > > DNxHD footage.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jeff
> > > > >
> > > > > ------------------
> > > > > Jeff Hedberg
> > > > > Union Editorial
> > > > > 575 Broadway
> > > > > 6th floor
> > > > > New York, NY 10012
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Aug 22, 2012, at 4:04 PM, Marcelo Tavares wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Guys, I'm having some difficulty with my AMA Workflow and I tried
> > > to
> > > > > > find a solution on Avid website but I don't found a good answer for
> > > my
> > > > > > doubt.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Here it is:
> > > > > > I'm working with QuickTime H.264 footage from Canons DSLRs, so I
> > > link the
> > > > > > footage with AMA and transcode the files to DNxHD codec. It's much
> > > faster
> > > > > > than the traditional import (3x faster!). I don't edit with original
> > > > > > footage because the H.264 codec it's terrible to edit with it!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ok, after I make the edit and send to my client, I keep the project
> > > in a
> > > > > > Backup folder and delete the MXF files from my hard drive, keeping
> > > only
> > > > > the
> > > > > > original H.264 files from camera.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sometime later the client request a new edit from that project
> > > > > > so normally I would reopen the project with all medias offline and
> > > then
> > > > > > Batch Import them right!? And here it's my problem. In the Batch
> > > Import
> > > > > > window I locate the original files but Avid only find one clip at a
> > > time,
> > > > > > and I have like 100 files to locate! (sometimes more)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When I import the clips in the traditional workflow, in the Batch
> > > Import
> > > > > > window I just need to locate the first clip and Avid recognizes all
> > > clips
> > > > > > in the folder automatically, matching their names but with transcoded
> > > > > clips
> > > > > > it don't recognizes the clips automatically!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The difference of the clips is that transcoded files are renamed
> > > with *
> > > > > > .new.01* and do not show the file extension *.mov* in this case and
> > > > > > imported clips show the file extension.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now the question. There are some way to Avid keep the file extension
> > > when
> > > > > > transcoding the clips?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *Marcelo Tavares*
> > > > > > 55.11. 98152.4676
> > > > > > http://marcelotavares.net
> > > > > >
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> > > > --
> > > > Atenciosamente,
> > > >
> > > > *Marcelo Tavares*
> > > > 55.11. 8152.4676
> > > > http://marcelotavares.net
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> > *Marcelo Tavares*
> > 55.11. 8152.4676
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