Anna,
You want constructive criticism? Here you go. The "L" is not your personal research assistant. It's annoying when somebody asks the group to do their homework for them.
That's why you're getting "frosty" responses.
Mark
--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Anna Hovhannessian <annahovhannessian@...> wrote:
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> Jay, slow your roll.
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> I was just asking an innocent question. You suggested this topic be brought to another forum, I thought you would know of one specifically where it would be more appropriate.
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> And though there are hundreds, I was hoping your direction would help weed out the good ones from the ok ones.
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> Constructive criticism is always better than just plain venting.
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> But if you don't have any, I guess I'll just have to take your venting, or ignore it.
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> On Aug 25, 2012, at 11:50 PM, Jay Mahavier <jay_mahavier@...> wrote:
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> > really, you can't find any other place to talk about politics or the union? Then you didn't even try.
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> > Since you are a member of this list you probably have access to all of the Yahoo Groups. I found a whole section on there devoted to the subject of Government and Politics. Under the Politics section there are 27647 groups. Try some of those.
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> > If you want to focus on union and labor issues a search for IATSE brings back 23 groups.
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> > A search for Labor Union brings back 454 groups.
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> > That was with a very minimal effort.
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> > Jay
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> > On Aug 25, 2012, at 4:48 PM, Anna Hovhannessian wrote:
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> > > Where else would you suggest?
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> > > I don't know of any venue as robust and rich.
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> > > On Aug 25, 2012, at 4:47 PM, Jay Mahavier <jay_mahavier@...> wrote:
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> > >> Personally I'm not interested in getting into politics and union issues on this list. And I am a member of and support the 700. It's all worth talking about and discussing, but I believe it's best left somewhere else.
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> > >> Jay Mahavier
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> > >> On Aug 25, 2012, at 2:31 PM, Mark wrote:
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> > >>> "how pathetic is our aversion to the political sphere that our illustrious group can't politely
> > >>> engage these issues without the threat of it descending into acrimony and
> > >>> invective?"
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> > >>> ... and away we go! Told ya!
> > >>>
> > >>> mark
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> > >>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, David Dodson <davidadodson@> wrote:
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> > >>>>
> > >>>> I agree with Anna. I come to the L-2 for the tech, but I stay for the community. And I like reading about the political wrangling that impacts our professional lives. And anyway, union issues don't seem like so much political issues as just a very real part of working the industry at this level. AND... how pathetic is our aversion to the political sphere that our illustrious group can't politely engage these issues without the threat of it descending into acrimony and invective?
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> > >>>> David
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> > >>>> On Aug 25, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Anna Hovhannessian wrote:
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> > >>>>> I like it. And honestly we don't always stick to tech. It's part of being a community of editors.
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> > >>>>> On Aug 25, 2012, at 2:56 PM, "Mark" <markraudonis@> wrote:
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> > >>>>>> Can we stick to the tech stuff and not go all political on this board? There's plenty of other
> > >>>>>> venues for this discussion... don't need it here. Thanks.
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> > >>>>>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "paul.hartel" <phartel@> wrote:
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