Wednesday, July 25, 2012

Re: [Avid-L2] Re: How to deliver XML

Thanks Michael. Or I guess just do the project in Premier to start with. Better get out the manual.

Lou
On Jul 25, 2012, at 12:58 PM, Michael Hancock wrote:

> You'll need to give them all the media too - the XML is like an EDL, I
> suppose, but carries more information. It doesn't embed the media like an
> AAF can. So they may need to do a reconnection on their end too. That's
> opening a can of worms in Premiere, though. Media management in Premiere
> is awful - absolutely terrible, especially if you're used to Avid. It's
> bad even compared to FCP, so I'd be worried that handing just the XML and a
> disk of footage may result in some relinking errors. I highly recommend
> giving them a consolidated Premiere project.
>
> If you have access to FCP and Premiere on the same machine, port from Avid
> to FCP, relink, export an XML and open it in Premiere (if it's all on the
> same system the files you link in FCP should link in Premiere). Then use
> the Project Manager in Premiere to consolidate everything to an external
> drive. Give them that drive with the project file and they won't even need
> the XML at that point (but I suppose you could include it).
>
> Michael
>
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Lou Wirth <loutv@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Michael. So if I have to hand over this XML, forgive the stupid
> > question, where does the media live for the other post house and should it
> > be converted to qt media? Is XML similar to AAF in that way?
> >
> > On Jul 25, 2012, at 12:12 PM, Michael Hancock wrote:
> >
> > > That's correct - export an AAF from Avid, use AutomaticDuck to import it
> > > into FCP, relink the media if necessary, then export an XML and they can
> > > import that into Premiere.
> > >
> > > I just did a test with a short, :15 DSLR spot (transcoded media). I
> > > exported an AAF with AAF Edit Protocol checked, Include All Video/Data
> > > Trakcs, Include all Audio Track, Link to (Don't Export) Media.
> > >
> > > Autoducked into FCP where I manually relinked the media. Exported XML,
> > > imported into Premiere, done. If I had AMA relinked the Avid sequence
> > back
> > > to the original DSLR footage I might not have had to relink manually in
> > FCP
> > > but I don't have time to test that right now. Hopefully you won't have to
> > > do the reconnection dance in FCP to get this to work or it could make
> > for a
> > > painful day.
> > >
> > > I'd love to hear if there's a better way than this, too. Hopefully
> > someone
> > > else knows something easier and faster.
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Lou Wirth <loutv@mindspring.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Is there actually an autoduck export for Avid? I thought it was just
> > FCP
> > > > import so you take an AAF from Avid. I dont see the embed media option
> > in
> > > > my Avid export AAF. Just link, consolidate, copy and mixdown.
> > > >
> > > > Lou
> > > > On Jul 23, 2012, at 7:07 PM, Michael Hancock wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > If they're taking it into Premiere then try an AAF from Avid directly
> > > > into
> > > > > Premiere. Maybe you'll have better luck than I have.
> > > > >
> > > > > If that doesn't work, Autoduck to FCP, check that the edit came
> > across
> > > > and
> > > > > the files are relinked, then export an XML from there and they can
> > import
> > > > > that into Premiere, or you can import it if you have Premiere and
> > check
> > > > > your edit. Send them a project file and the XML. Takes about 5
> > minutes if
> > > > > the files link up properly in FCP.
> > > > >
> > > > > Michael
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:06 PM, Lou Wirth <loutv@mindspring.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I think they are taking it into Premiere
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Jul 23, 2012, at 6:59 PM, johnrobmoore wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > What system are they using for CC? Most traditional coloring
> > systems
> > > > can
> > > > > > work from an edl.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Lou Wirth <loutv@...> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have a client who wants a series of short videos cut and
> > > > delivered
> > > > > > in XML so they can CC in house. I know Premiere does this but not
> > > > wanting
> > > > > > to cut these stylized pieces in software I am not familiar with.
> > Can I
> > > > cut
> > > > > > in Avid and export to Premiere? Then do the XML. I am on MC 5.5
> > and I
> > > > know
> > > > > > Cinema Tools is supposed to do XML but I hear its wonky. What
> > about a
> > > > > > Avid-Premiere-XML workflow?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > thanks
> > > > > > > > Lou
> > > > > > > > Lou Wirth Productions
> > > > > > > > 500Tamal Plaza, Suite 522
> > > > > > > > Corte Madera, CA 94925
> > > > > > > > www.louwirth.com
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