Not trolling at all Patrick. What makes you say that? Based on your statement about the grade being the responsibility of the colorist and not the monitor, I am guessing you read something into my post that wasn't there. Read it again and tell me I say a monitor causes bad grading.
I have tried all the different LCDs over the years. We have had multiple monitor shoot outs at Editors' lounge with the majors all lined up next to each other. I stand by my assessment.
You even state in your reply to John that it took a while for your eyes to adjust to using an LCD for correction. You know how long it took my eyes to adjust to OLED from CRT? A few seconds. That was just the shock of how rich the blacks were.
As for using the LCD in a non dark environment, I agree LCDs seem better as the light level comes up vs. the CRTs which get worse as the light level comes up. But try the OLED. It looks just as amazing in total darkness as in a brightly lit room. The best of both wolds!
You also tell John you are not using the scopes as much. I'm not sure how you do that as the human eye is constantly adjusting. It's like having auto white and black balance always running on a camera. There's been many a long correction day when my eyes are telling me a scene is too much of some color, but my scopes tell me it's correct. Trusting the scopes always pays off, when I view with fresh eyes, the scene is always good.
I have 5 OLEDs, that I purchased early on and I am not experiencing the drift you are talking about. Either I got lucky or you got unlucky with your test unit. I guess we'll have to wait for some more feedback from users to see what the trend is.
--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Inhofer <elists@...> wrote:
>
> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 12:10 AM, Terence Curren <tcurren@...> wrote:
> >
> > Greg answered it perfectly. It's a trust issue. You know you are right
> > with the scopes, but the blacks never look right on LCDs. So a lot of time
> > is spent second guessing and hoping. :-(
> >
> Terry - are you trolling? ;-)
>
> I've got say - that's a pretty sweeping statement.
>
> While I've never had the pleasure of working a BVM OLED (I did spend a week
> on a PVM which I wouldn't recommend), I've seen my LCD-originated work in
> many places. I've never had reason to believe that any problems I saw could
> be traced back to the display technology of the reference monitor.
>
> If the grade is wrong it's usually my fault, not the monitor's (FSI
> LM-2461W).
>
> The other thing to keep in mind about black levels... they are heavily
> effected by the general ambient light level in a room. Direct viewing
> displays shouldn't be used in a blacked out room (though that's how they
> are always demo'ed) for prolonged periods... for reasons that include eye
> strain.
>
> The normal raised ambient light levels when grading on these displays
> negate some (not all) of the OLED black-level advantage.
>
> - patrick
>
>
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