Sunday, March 25, 2012

Re: (Mac)[Avid-L2] Re: Dear Avid: Baselight and Resolve let's go!

The keyer generates a matte. On a chroma keyer like SpectraMatte you can
then blur or soften the matte to avoid hard edges. This is something that's
possible in every other colour correction tool I've used that features
secondary corrections.

Dylan Reeve
http://dylanreeve.com/


On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Terence Curren <tcurren@aol.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> You really have to understand the difference between a "matte" keyer and a
> "chroma" keyer to grock the difference here.
>
> The secondaries in Symphony act like a chroma keyer.
>
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Dylan Reeve <dylan@...> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, that's what I was talking about... The soften just softens the
> > selection area. Still end up with hard cutoff on matte edges. On slightly
> > noisy footage that can create noticable "boiling"
> >
> > Also impossible to use luma-only for the qualifier which would be
> helpful.
> >
> > I usually just ignore the secondaries entirely for that reason. If I
> really
> > need one I will stack up layers with SpectraMatte to get what I need.
> >
> > Dylan Reeve
> > http://dylanreeve.com/
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Terence Curren <tcurren@...> wrote:
> >
> > > **
>
> > >
> > >
> > > I guess it depends upon how you define the selection. If you are
> talking
> > > about the selection of a specific color range, and you want to soften
> that
> > > selection, that is what happens now.
> > >
> > > If you are talking about softening the edge of a matte on an area that
> you
> > > created using a color selection in secondaries, then no, that would be
> what
> > > we gain by adding shapes if Avid invests in that feature set.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I don't think of the soften in secondaries like I would soften a wipe
> > > pattern edge. It's more like a broadening of the secondary color
> selection
> > > allowing more colors near the targeted secondary. At least that's how
> it
> > > seems to work to me. Am I missing something about the "soften" control
> as
> > > it works in Symphony secondaries. I read the OP as wanting to soften
> the
> > > edge of the matte generated by the secondary selection. If I put a
> > > secondary on flesh tone of a face and tweak the soften control more
> fleshy
> > > like colors are included in the secondary selection and that happens
> across
> > > the entire raster not just the edge of the face area. I wish
> spectramatte
> > > had better matte manipulation too, the dilate rarely works the way I
> would
> > > like it to.
> > > >
> > > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Terence Curren" <tcurren@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Dylan Reeve <dylan@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > <<The secondaries are virtually useless given you can't soften or
> > > tweak the matte.>>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Huh? So that soften slider that smoothes out the secondary
> selection,
> > > the one that I have been using all these years is in my imagination?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>


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