Thanks guys for answering.
I think Bouke's point is that shooting 24P in general is dopey
unless you have European partners/markets or theater release in
mind. And an interesting point it is. I guess my question would
be how much of the "film look" that people in the States like is
the cadence of 3:2 pull down and not really 24Pness? It's the way
folks have watched film on TV in the States forever.
To answer Dom's question, the project is talking like they want
to edit in HD and not in an offline/online model. Does DNxHD220
make that a bit of a bear? (I personally still like offline and
having all the materials for an hour doc on a one terabyte drive
that I can walk out the door with.)
Thanks again,
D.
On Fri, Mar 2, 2012, at 08:15 AM, Dom Q. Silverio wrote:
Sorry if I was not clear but I actually agreed with you ("but
staying
true 23/24").
On 3/2/2012 7:31 AM, bouke wrote:
> well, i disagree on the flexibility of adding pulldown during
the shoot.
> If you edit with pulldown, you get cadence breaks, so the whole
idea of 24p
> is gone on the master.
> And i would say only if, AND ONLY IF there is a chance to get
to Europe or
> the theatre, shoot 24.
> Otherwise, be happy about 6 frames more per second.
>
> Bouke
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> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Shooting specs
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>
>> Sony suggests 10 bit codec when shooting S-log to truly take
advantage
>> of this feature.
>>
>> 145 vs 220? Just really depends on cost and delivery
requirements.
>> Bigger files means more storage, more time to copy the files
for backup,
>> higher cost. Are you going to offline/online or stay online
all the way?
>>
>> If you are delivering SR, I strongly suggest 220.
>>
>> 220x (10 bit) and 220 8 bit do take the same amount of space.
10 bit is
>> achieved by sacrificing a bit in compression ratio as it is a
bit more
>> compressed than 8 bit.
>>
>> Shooting 23/24p with pulldown will make it easier in post but
staying
>> true 23/24 gives you more flexibility.
>>
>>
>> .02
>>
>> On 3/1/2012 7:10 PM, Dan McCabe wrote:
>>> Some tech questions have floated my way and I wonder if folks
here have
>>> some experience/opinions.
>>>
>>> This is for a PBS documentary series, interviews and archival
mostly.
>>> There is a good chance much of it will be shot on the Sony F3
using an
>>> external recorder in a DNxHD codec. No green screen.
>>>
>>> Here are the questions:
>>>
>>> Should we use an 8-bit or a 10-bit codec? (Again, a broadcast
series. No
>>> green screen.)
>>>
>>> It is my understanding that 8-bit and 10-bit take up the same
amount of
>>> disk space. Correct?
>>>
>>> The F3 can use S-log. If folks want the latitude of S-log,
does that
>>> mean 10-bit because 8-bit doesn't have enough information to
be
>>> processed?
>>>
>>> If 8-bit, is DNxHD220 overkill for broadcast? Should we use
DNxHD145 to
>>> decrease storage? Or is better to err toward more information
to provide
>>> more color correction possibilities especially for when
someone screws
>>> up?
>>>
>>> The Producers want to shoot 23.976 fps. There may be the
choice to
>>> record with pull-down at 29.97 fps. The final delivery will
be 29.97fps.
>>> Most of the archival will be 29.97fps.
>>> Should they record the 23.976fps as 29.97fps DNxHD files to
streamline
>>> the edit?
>>>
>>> Thanks for any insight,
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
>>>
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