Well, Premiere Pro and FCP7work the same way - mark I-O on one frame
and you have marked one frame. Just like in film (which was my
background). Never had to work with tape so this discussion is a little
esoteric! When teaching I use an analogy of a board game. I'm on this
square and I advance one and I've covered two squares (always including
the square [frame] I started on).
On 29/02/2012 10:39, trevatpc wrote:
>
> one way to think is that the timecode point is the bit 'between' the
> frames. So 01.00.00.00 is the bit after black and before first frame
> and if you want a 1 frame edit your out point has to be the timecode
> between the first and 2nd frame (i.e. 01.00.00.01).
>
> Avid lets you mark a single frame with an in and an out... other
> systems require you to roll onto the 2nd frame to mark the out and
> have a 1 frame duration.
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@...> wrote:
> >
> > In linear edl style the outpoint is the "Next" frame to be recorded.
> That one frame difference is a constant point of confusion when people
> use edls and then type those numbers into avid timelines and see a
> duratin 1 frame greater. Frame 0 is a frame was the way to phrase it
> which makes it valid to subtract the frame before the first frame. Thanks.
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "bouke" <bouke@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Few things not to forget.
> > > Frame 0 is a frame. So from 0 to 10 is 11 frames
> > > But counting up to 10 starts with 1, as 0 is normally void (how
> many apples
> > > do you count in your basket if you have none?)
> > > But how many numbers do you have in your basket if there is only a
> zero to
> > > be found?
> > >
> > > Now for TC, this duration madness at the end is not as it used to
> be, as the
> > > calculation was done UP to, meaning, your outpoint was the frame
> NOT to
> > > insert.
> > > (in the lineair world you would put your outpoint on the frame you
> wanted to
> > > keep, remember?)
> > >
> > > Bouke
> > >
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> > > The Netherlands
> > > +31 24 3553311
> > > www.videotoolshed.com
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> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "John Moore" <bigfish@>
> > > To: "Avid L2" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:29 PM
> > > Subject: [Avid-L2] Center Duration 1 fame 1 frame longer duration
> than time
> > > code calculator?
> > >
> > >
> > > This is probably true regardless of the project type but in an HD
> 23.976
> > > 1080P project if I mark in at 1:00:00:00 and mark out 1:03:00:00 I
> get a
> > > center duration of 3:00:01. If I subtract the mark in from the
> mark out
> > > using the time code calculator I get 3:00. I know I always end an
> act on a
> > > ;29 frame in the drop frame 29.97 world so I think I understand
> what's going
> > > on. I guess I should treat the frame before the mark in e.g.
> 00:59:59:23 as
> > > the time code I should subtract from the end time code when going
> the time
> > > code calculator route. I just don't remember ever having done that
> in a
> > > 29.97 df world but maybe I just didn't notice or think about it.
> > >
> > > John Moore
> > >
> > > Barking Trout Productions
> > >
> > > Studio City, CA
> > >
> > > bigfish@
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>
>
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Roger Shufflebottom
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