Source DAM and it can be pretty powerfull for logging, I haven'r found a
worfklow for automating backups yet but it solved the logging problem.
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On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 7:57 PM, John McClary <johnnyq_@yahoo.com> wrote:
> **
>
>
> Granted. My point is that there is a price point for most people.
> Hopefully people will list their requirements for a DAM/MAM system and
> we'll talk more.
>
> IMHO, a smaller company's situation doesn't demand the enterprise-class
> setup, so seeing a price like that shouldn't stop them from checking out
> their networked products at $400 a seat plus server. However, I have to
> equate the trend towards DAM/MAM now with the great "shared storage"
> migration of the last decade:
>
> We all want the workflow benefits without the higher prices.
>
> Still, most small shops can get along just fine without shared storage -
> or they go with Facilis or maybe Flavorsys. These are suppliers that have
> created solutions for what many boutiques find is an acceptable price.
>
> As long as you are using technology that is constructed as a SYSTEM for
> your situation (workload/ IT support needed/ constrained by price) there is
> a price point for most anyone.
>
>
>
> John McClary
> ------------------------------
> "There's Always A Solution"
>
> ________________________________
> From: RT <huipro@hawaii.rr.com>
> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 4:55 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Media Archiving. LTO?
>
>
>
> To be clear - a turnkey CATDV Enterprise software setup for 5 workgroup
> users runs around $27K. That's with install and support but NO hardware
> of any kind,
>
> The ProCache5 hardware runs $10K. Plus tapes, install and support.
>
> There is a huge difference in pricing for individual CATDV users vs the
> networked products which is pretty hard to explain to owners of small
> shops.
>
> At $40K, this system is a better fit for a SAN based corporate facility
> or broadcaster. Folks like NASCAR love it. But they often need a
> larger tape library also.
>
> Anyone in the small to mid category have feelings on this subject? Do
> you see a better alternative?
>
> RT
>
> John McClary wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I think the boutique to medium size facility will be better served by
> > coming systems. However, there are a lot of companies right now that
> > have turnkey systems between $1-4K range. That does not include the
> > setup, digitizing of old media, and molding it to your company's
> > workflow (sometimes not even the computer). I understand your pain - I
> > was a freelance editor/one-man band for a lot of years. But a single
> > license for CatDV is $400 - $99 for a mostly-logging edition. You may
> > be reaching for more than you actually need if you are more
> > price-sensitive than that.
> >
> > How inexpensive does a Digital Asset Management system need to be to
> > be "affordable" for someone who defines themselves as a small company?
> >
> > I wonder because there are really three questions here:
> > (1) what MUST you have to consider a DAM system "complete" (what do
> > YOU mean when you say it)
> >
> > (2) how much do you do you feel is an "affordable" price
> >
> > (3) what level of automation do you need in a DAM to feel comfortable
> > with it
> > (4) what technologies/brands does it need to be built with
> >
> > It's something we ALL say - "I need an affordable system"-- but what
> > do we really mean by that? When I say Asset Management, I need (a)
> > nearline backup and LTO-based archiving (b) tape library to search for
> > existing clips and tapes (c) an ingest station to control both (d)
> > shared calendars or actual scheduling (e) read-only shared storage so
> > editors/artists can access what they need and (f) server-based
> > internet portal for authenticated access from the web. Well, OSX Lion
> > Server (plus a program or two) does all that so I'm covered.
> >
> > But how do you define the system that meets YOUR needs?
> >
> >
> > John McClary
> > ------------------------------
> > "There's Always A Solution"
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Richard Tibbetts <huipro@hawaii.rr.com
> > <mailto:huipro%40hawaii.rr.com>>
> > To: "Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>"
> > <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 5:14 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Media Archiving. LTO?
> >
> >
> >
> > For a small shop, yes. And they just increased prices significantly.
> >
> > Alas, Avid used to be pricey as well.
> >
> > RT
> >
> > On Jan 9, 2012, at 9:39 PM, "Rupert Watson" <rupert@root6.com
> > <mailto:rupert%40root6.com>> wrote:
> >
> > > CatDV is pricey? Have you looked at other Asset Management systems?
> > >
> > > Rupert Watson
> > >
> > > +44 7787 554 801
> > >
> > > www.root6.com
> > >
> > > From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>] On
> > Behalf Of Richard Tibbetts
> > > Sent: 09 January 2012 22:13
> > > To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Media Archiving. LTO?
> > >
> > > A small facility (Aka editor working in the basement at home) could
> > get by with just the simple database tools that ship free with the
> > cache-a. If youre a SAN based workgroup or broadcaster, the pricey
> > catdv is the way to go.
> > >
> > > You'll need an IT guy to manage it before long.
> > >
> > > RT
> > > Sent from the drs waiting room.
> > >
> > > On Jan 9, 2012, at 10:39 AM, "haus" <switthaus@mac.com
> > <mailto:switthaus%40mac.com> <mailto:switthaus%40mac.com> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I literally just got out of a demo of Cache-A with CatDV as an
> > asset manager and it looked very impressive. Pricey, but it covers a
> > lot of bases and is scalable to meet pretty much any need.
> > > >
> > > > sw
> > > >
> > > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com> , "Mike R" <mike@...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Are facilities happy with their LTO workflows? I have been using
> > a hard drive archiving plan, but feel like a longer term solution
> > needs to be put into place. I was looking at the Cache-A archiving
> > appliance, any experience with it?
> > > > > TIA
> > > > > -Mike
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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