This IS the Avid L2: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Media Archiving. LTO?

Tuesday, January 10, 2012

Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Media Archiving. LTO?

To be clear - a turnkey CATDV Enterprise software setup for 5 workgroup
users runs around $27K. That's with install and support but NO hardware
of any kind,

The ProCache5 hardware runs $10K. Plus tapes, install and support.

There is a huge difference in pricing for individual CATDV users vs the
networked products which is pretty hard to explain to owners of small
shops.

At $40K, this system is a better fit for a SAN based corporate facility
or broadcaster. Folks like NASCAR love it. But they often need a
larger tape library also.

Anyone in the small to mid category have feelings on this subject? Do
you see a better alternative?

RT

John McClary wrote:

>
>
> I think the boutique to medium size facility will be better served by
> coming systems. However, there are a lot of companies right now that
> have turnkey systems between $1-4K range. That does not include the
> setup, digitizing of old media, and molding it to your company's
> workflow (sometimes not even the computer). I understand your pain - I
> was a freelance editor/one-man band for a lot of years. But a single
> license for CatDV is $400 - $99 for a mostly-logging edition. You may
> be reaching for more than you actually need if you are more
> price-sensitive than that.
>
> How inexpensive does a Digital Asset Management system need to be to
> be "affordable" for someone who defines themselves as a small company?
>
> I wonder because there are really three questions here:
> (1) what MUST you have to consider a DAM system "complete" (what do
> YOU mean when you say it)
>
> (2) how much do you do you feel is an "affordable" price
>
> (3) what level of automation do you need in a DAM to feel comfortable
> with it
> (4) what technologies/brands does it need to be built with
>
> It's something we ALL say - "I need an affordable system"-- but what
> do we really mean by that? When I say Asset Management, I need (a)
> nearline backup and LTO-based archiving (b) tape library to search for
> existing clips and tapes (c) an ingest station to control both (d)
> shared calendars or actual scheduling (e) read-only shared storage so
> editors/artists can access what they need and (f) server-based
> internet portal for authenticated access from the web. Well, OSX Lion
> Server (plus a program or two) does all that so I'm covered.
>
> But how do you define the system that meets YOUR needs?
>
>
> John McClary
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> From: Richard Tibbetts <huipro@hawaii.rr.com
> <mailto:huipro%40hawaii.rr.com>>
> To: "Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>"
> <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 5:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Media Archiving. LTO?
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>
> For a small shop, yes. And they just increased prices significantly.
>
> Alas, Avid used to be pricey as well.
>
> RT
>
> On Jan 9, 2012, at 9:39 PM, "Rupert Watson" <rupert@root6.com
> <mailto:rupert%40root6.com>> wrote:
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> > CatDV is pricey? Have you looked at other Asset Management systems?
> >
> > Rupert Watson
> >
> > +44 7787 554 801
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> > www.root6.com
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> > From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>] On
> Behalf Of Richard Tibbetts
> > Sent: 09 January 2012 22:13
> > To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Re: Media Archiving. LTO?
> >
> > A small facility (Aka editor working in the basement at home) could
> get by with just the simple database tools that ship free with the
> cache-a. If youre a SAN based workgroup or broadcaster, the pricey
> catdv is the way to go.
> >
> > You'll need an IT guy to manage it before long.
> >
> > RT
> > Sent from the drs waiting room.
> >
> > On Jan 9, 2012, at 10:39 AM, "haus" <switthaus@mac.com
> <mailto:switthaus%40mac.com> <mailto:switthaus%40mac.com> > wrote:
> >
> > > I literally just got out of a demo of Cache-A with CatDV as an
> asset manager and it looked very impressive. Pricey, but it covers a
> lot of bases and is scalable to meet pretty much any need.
> > >
> > > sw
> > >
> > > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com> , "Mike R" <mike@...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Are facilities happy with their LTO workflows? I have been using
> a hard drive archiving plan, but feel like a longer term solution
> needs to be put into place. I was looking at the Cache-A archiving
> appliance, any experience with it?
> > > > TIA
> > > > -Mike
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