Saturday, December 31, 2011

Re: [Avid-L2] Archiving DV25 411 tapes

Ah - I see what he was getting at. I do recall a case where something along those lines did happen. I remember having a go at the Avid training folks about it, years ago. I might just check as I'm testing some export scenarios at the moment.

On 31 Dec 2011, at 16:47, David Ross wrote:

> Hi Roger,
> Being from 'PAL-land', I know a little about the foibles of DV PAL. What I
> was questioning was Bouke's suggestion that the Avid DV codec switches
> field order on NTSC DV. That would make no sense to me, but I don't recall
> ever being in a position to find out for myself.
>
> D.
>
> Sent from my mobile. Please excuse the spelling.
>
> On Dec 31, 2011 4:19 PM, "Roger" <rogershuff@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > PAL DV is lower field first. Also, you won't necessarily use the Avid DV
> codec, unless that option is checked in the Export settings.
> >
> > On 31 Dec 2011, at 15:00, David Ross wrote:
> >
> > > Bouke,
> > > Are you sure that's true for NTSC DV? I thought the Avid field order
> > > switch only applied to PAL DV in order to keep it consistent with
> > > non-DV PAL.
> > >
> > > D.
> > >
> > > On 31 December 2011 14:43, bouke <bouke@editb.nl> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If you export as QT it is the same content, but in the Avid DV codec.
> > > > And that is upper field first while the rest of the world uses lower
> field
> > > > first.
> > > > If you export from Avid with the 'use Avid codecs' turned off, you
> end up
> > > > with the 'correct' field order.
> > > > (Do check yourself, there was some madness in some versions, same as
> with
> > > > color levels)
> > > >
> > > > Bouke
> > > >
> > > > VideoToolShed
> > > > van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
> > > > 6512 AS NIJMEGEN
> > > > The Netherlands
> > > > +31 24 3553311
> > > > www.videotoolshed.com
> > > > For large files:
> > > > http://dropbox.yousendit.com/BoukeVahl998172
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "DAVID VAUGHN" <d.w.vaughn@usa.net>
> > > > To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 3:30 PM
> > > > Subject: [Avid-L2] Archiving DV25 411 tapes
> > > >
> > > > I have two questions. The first is that I have old DV25 411 miniDV and
> > > > Digital 8 tapes I wish to archive on hard drives. Am I right that if I
> > > > capture in MC6 as DV25 411 MFX and then export to QuickTime for
> archiving
> > > > that
> > > > I retain original (bit-for-bit) quality and that only the wrapper has
> > > > changed?
> > > >
> > > > Second, these tapes contain movies shot on miniDV tape, edited in
> Edit DV or
> > > > Cinestream and then digitally cut back to tape. There is noticeable
> > > > interlace
> > > > artifact with movement. I assume line order got reversed at some
> stage and
> > > > there is nothing that can be done short of re-edting from original
> tape.
> > > > Are
> > > > there options in MC6 for the capture or export that might correct
> this?
> > > > Thanks. David.
> > > >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

With best wishes,
Roger Shufflebottom
rogershuff@yahoo.co.uk
+44 7973 543 660


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