Saturday, December 31, 2011

Re: [Avid-L2] Archiving DV25 411 tapes

I kind of question the wisdom of using hard drives to archive this old tape
material. Hard drives are way more fragile than tape. They can go bad
just sitting on a shelf.

I would dub them to Digibeta or something, if you want a more durable
format.

On Saturday, December 31, 2011, David Ross <speckydave@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Roger,
> Being from 'PAL-land', I know a little about the foibles of DV PAL. What I
> was questioning was Bouke's suggestion that the Avid DV codec switches
> field order on NTSC DV. That would make no sense to me, but I don't recall
> ever being in a position to find out for myself.
>
> D.
>
> Sent from my mobile. Please excuse the spelling.
>
> On Dec 31, 2011 4:19 PM, "Roger" <rogershuff@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> PAL DV is lower field first. Also, you won't necessarily use the Avid DV
> codec, unless that option is checked in the Export settings.
>>
>> On 31 Dec 2011, at 15:00, David Ross wrote:
>>
>> > Bouke,
>> > Are you sure that's true for NTSC DV? I thought the Avid field order
>> > switch only applied to PAL DV in order to keep it consistent with
>> > non-DV PAL.
>> >
>> > D.
>> >
>> > On 31 December 2011 14:43, bouke <bouke@editb.nl> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > If you export as QT it is the same content, but in the Avid DV codec.
>> > > And that is upper field first while the rest of the world uses lower
> field
>> > > first.
>> > > If you export from Avid with the 'use Avid codecs' turned off, you
> end up
>> > > with the 'correct' field order.
>> > > (Do check yourself, there was some madness in some versions, same as
> with
>> > > color levels)
>> > >
>> > > Bouke
>> > >
>> > > VideoToolShed
>> > > van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
>> > > 6512 AS NIJMEGEN
>> > > The Netherlands
>> > > +31 24 3553311
>> > > www.videotoolshed.com
>> > > For large files:
>> > > http://dropbox.yousendit.com/BoukeVahl998172
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "DAVID VAUGHN" <d.w.vaughn@usa.net>
>> > > To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
>> > > Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 3:30 PM
>> > > Subject: [Avid-L2] Archiving DV25 411 tapes
>> > >
>> > > I have two questions. The first is that I have old DV25 411 miniDV
and
>> > > Digital 8 tapes I wish to archive on hard drives. Am I right that if
I
>> > > capture in MC6 as DV25 411 MFX and then export to QuickTime for
> archiving
>> > > that
>> > > I retain original (bit-for-bit) quality and that only the wrapper has
>> > > changed?
>> > >
>> > > Second, these tapes contain movies shot on miniDV tape, edited in
> Edit DV or
>> > > Cinestream and then digitally cut back to tape. There is noticeable
>> > > interlace
>> > > artifact with movement. I assume line order got reversed at some
> stage and
>> > > there is nothing that can be done short of re-edting from original
> tape.
>> > > Are
>> > > there options in MC6 for the capture or export that might correct
> this?
>> > > Thanks. David.
>> > >
>
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>
>


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