Friday, September 23, 2011

[Avid-L2] Re: AVI file in MXF for HD Closed Captioning?

 

Do you happen to know what kind of captioning system is required to create the .aaf?

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Bogdan Grigoresco <bogdan_grigorescu@...> wrote:
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> From: johnrobmoore <bigfish@...>
> Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: AVI file in MXF for HD Closed Captioning?
> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, September 23, 2011, 10:45 PM
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> Wow that sounds very promising. Thanks for the info. So the caption house provides a .aaf file of the caption data. Is that the same type of file they would normally provide to the captioning/dub house? I know there are various file formats that caption data can come in. Is .aaf at all a part of what we equate with aaf's from avid and protools?
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> > Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: AVI file in MXF for HD Closed Captioning?
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> > Date: Friday, September 23, 2011, 9:11 PM
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> > > --- On Fri, 9/23/11, John Moore <bigfish@> wrote:
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> > > Subject: [Avid-L2] AVI file in MXF for HD Closed Captioning?
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