Tuesday, August 16, 2011

Re: [Avid-L2] Re: 24p/25p?

 

Thanks, could you elaborate?

Are motion pictures originating on film not shot at 24 fps in the UK, then? I'm getting more and more confused here :-/

James

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>From: phillipsm <michael_phillips@avid.com>
>To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Tuesday, 16 August 2011, 1:25
>Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: 24p/25p?
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>You need to be aware of 23.976 type capture and shutter speeds with 50Hz lighting as it can result in image artifacts.
>
>Michael
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>--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "james_whitehouse1@..." <james_whitehouse1@...> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thanks for the replies! The cam shoots mpeg avc/h.264 at about 28mbps internally, but I'll be using a Ninja from the uncompressed FireWire out to get lovely ProRes HQ ;)
>>
>> If it were possible to hack the firmware of the UK model for now, that would be great! Otherwise the only issues I can see with a US model is the warranty, the fact I may wish to shoot 25p for UK broadcast for other projects in the future and possibly the charger not being UK compatible? Cheaper in the US though!
>>
>> So if it is more likely UK will accept 24p, how will I convert for UK market, if I wished to produce, for example, a DVD release?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> James
>>
>> On 15 Aug 2011, at 23:17, "bouke" <bouke@...> wrote:
>>
>> > Could one not use 'ignoreQTrate = true' to import in a 23.976 project? Or
>> > CinemaTool to 24?
>> > (Of course both need a QT compatible format to start with, but that can be
>> > arranged)
>> > No idea what this cam shoots, but i doubt it's an easy import anyways...
>> >
>> > And then the discussion about sound and pitch...
>> >
>> > What i don't get, did sony release a European and American firmware?
>> > Smells like a simple software hack to get it 'fixed'
>> > (it was common over here to hack cameras that had firewire in disabled due
>> > to import fees)
>> >
>> > Last but not least, why not get one from the States then?
>> >
>> > Bouke
>> >
>> > VideoToolShed
>> > van Oldenbarneveltstraat 33
>> > 6512 AS NIJMEGEN
>> > The Netherlands
>> > +31 24 3553311
>> > www.videotoolshed.com
>> > For large files:
>> > http://dropbox.yousendit.com/BoukeVahl998172
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Terence Curren" <tcurren@...>
>> > To: <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
>> > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:34 PM
>> > Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: 24p/25p?
>> >
>> > In Symphony, you can cross convert from 24 to 25 and 30, or from 25 to 24 &
>> > 30.
>> >
>> > In MC you could open the 25 timeline in a 24 project, but every shot would
>> > have a motion effect applied to adjust. Not very elegant.
>> >
>> > Personally, I think Europe is far more comfortable with taking a 24 then the
>> > US is with taking a 25 project. Not saying it's right, jut the way it is.
>> >
>> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "James W" <james_whitehouse1@> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > Sorry for what may be an obvious question, but I'm about to invest in a
>> > > Sony NEX FS-100 to shoot an independent, low budget feature. I'll be
>> > > editing in Avid. The film will be sent to festivals in the UK, Europe and
>> > > US and we hope to potentially release online and possibly get a limited
>> > > theatrical release or broadcast.
>> > >
>> > > This means it is of importance to have the best, most flexible workflow in
>> > > terms of frame-rates form the start.
>> > >
>> > > Problem - I'd probably intuitively choose 24p for a feature film which may
>> > > have theatrical release or festival showings, but the UK model of the
>> > > FS-100 currently has only 25p/50p. This is apparently to be fixed with a
>> > > firmware update in the winter, but we're shooting before then. The US
>> > > model was, on the other hand, blessed with 24p/30p/60p.
>> > >
>> > > So am I doing my post production and possible release media harm by
>> > > purchasing the UK model and shooting 25p at present, should I get an air
>> > > fare to NYC and go pick up a US model and shoot 24p, or does it make no
>> > > difference ultimately, as I'm going to have to convert to something
>> > > different whatever I use? I would ultimately go with whichever option is
>> > > likely to give the best all round quality and least pain in post.
>> > >
>> > > Whichever option I choose, will I be able to do any such conversions in
>> > > MC, or will I need to pay for a transfer for maximum quality? Any
>> > > thoughts, advice and workflows greatly appreciated before I part with cash
>> > > and lock out some of my options!
>> > >
>> > > Many thanks in advance,
>> > >
>> > > James
>> > >
>> >
>> >
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