Oh Roger, Roger, Roger...
THAT is sad!
Best,
Shirley
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Shufflebottom <rogshuff@gmail.com>
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, Feb 3, 2011 2:54 pm
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] MC5 new keyframe behaviour + workflow
I think the automatic adding of keyframes (if I follow this thread correctly)
only happens if the wireframe is dragged or adjusted. If WF is off, or an effect
slider in the Effect editor is tweaked, the value changes across the entire
effect, if there are no keyframes I think). OTOH Marquee has a proper
'Animate/Not Animate' toggle so maybe MC needs that too.
In terms of bugs in MC5, I have to show capture mode to a class of students
tomorrow and I'm having to lug in a Dell 650 desktop monster with NewsCutter 7.5
on to show this as my Mac with MC5 will not capture reliably using Firewire from
any PAL deck I have. I've posted here and on the ACI-L and on the forums about
this but no feedback from anyone. Have a nice day now!
On 3 Feb 2011, at 19:08, chris magid wrote:
> I agree 100%. The effects model is flawed and not consistent with how effects
> are handled in many other environments, including previous Avid releases.
>
> What you suggestion makes great sense. Effects mode should not automatically
add
> keyframes. This would result in parameters being adjusted to be "hold" or
static
> changes. No animation. You should be given the choice to manually add
keyframes
> or to have the application do it automatically, just as in Adobe products like
> After Effects.
>
> A real mess. However I do believe this is something we struggle with in older
> versions (4.5, 4.x) as it happens with all AVX2 or advanced keyframe effects.
>
> It is also worth mentioning that all the grief surrounding our brief test
drives
> of version 5 and reports from users have prevented us from pulling the trigger
> on upgrades for our 7 seats (3- Symphonys, 1 Adrenaline, 2 Mojos, 1 software
> only). Thats a lot of business Avid has lost over a tremendous miscalculation.
>
> There was a lot in need of fixing, revision, and updating. Version 5 seemed to
> spend valuable corporate resources pursuing some FCP induced delusions of
> grandeur.
>
> If they have run out bugs to fix, user requests or quality/performance issues
to
> address I have a list.
>
> Heck can we just get a DVE that doesn't go soft in 4 pixel cadences, maintains
> cleans edges, can handle scaling and movement without interlace wiggle? Ditto
> for an Animatte tool that doesn't introduce interlace artifacts when objects
are
> too close to the edge of raster.
>
> Anything further like addressing the color correction interface would require
a
> much larger internet.
>
> Output quality trumps interface in the pecking order. Right now they both
suck.
> Christopher Magid
> RTVF
>
> ________________________________
> From: shieldsy72 <PaulShieldsAvidL@gmail.com>
> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, February 3, 2011 10:04:38 AM
> Subject: [Avid-L2] MC5 new keyframe behaviour + workflow
>
> Hoping for some words of wisdom from people on this. I've only had chance to
> dabble with MC5 while I wait for my facility to jump from 3.5. I can deal with
> the smart tool and the new timeline behaviours but I can't work out the best
way
> to handle the new keyframing behaviour.
>
> For example, I want to resize a shot so I drop a 3D Warp on and make it
bigger.
> Then I move elsewhere. Later I land on the resized shot and decide to adjust
it,
> so I move it to a new size/position. I have now created an animation between
my
> first size and the new one. Traditionally this wouldn't happen and I think I
> read a while back an explanation, probably from Frank, that effects are now
> added without start/end keyframes to save on sequence size. What's happening
now
> is that when I perform the first resize, a keyframe is added at the position I
> clicked on and, unless I land on that frame again, a new keyframe is added for
> the adjustment.
>
> My workaround is to add a keyframe start and end every time I add a resize and
> make sure they are both selected - but this is a major PITA - it reminds me of
> the hoops FCP makes me jump through to do the simplest things. What are other
> people doing? I'm hoping there's something really obvious to avoid this or
that
> it's going to be changed! I don't mind the advance keyframing becoming
standard
> but it looks like the current system needs to copy Premiere's clock button to
> enable animation over time on effects.
>
> Really hoping I'm missing something obvious :)
>
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>
>
With best wishes.
Roger Shufflebottom
+44 7974 543 660
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