As I said, I haven't deployed SSDs for my editing platform boot drives yet. But I can tell you that in the 8 machines that I've already done -- SSDs have had a very dramatic, and sometimes shocking effect on boot times, application launch times and file management processes.
I certainly can't vouch for the impact they'd have on the absolutely laborious process of launching Media Composer -- but for most other applications -- the effect is close to instantaneous compared to the former traditional hard drive performance.
As for paging file location -- I don't mess with it. SSDs are effectively RAM -- and it would be counterproductive to path that file to a traditional hard drive with slower access times and diminished bandwidth.
Generally speaking, you'll find that any disk intensive process will benefit from their use -- and you'll also quickly begin to despise the traditional hard drives in your system as being sluggish and pokey.
Of course, all of this is not without its cost. And it really requires full immersion into the technology -- so that you completely understand the cost/benefit -- and the limitations of this technology.
And finally, with a "legacy" application like Media Composer -- it will take a real hands-on test to see exactly what benefit can be derived from their use.
--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, chris magid <chris_rtvf@...> wrote:
>
> And would be more curious as to their impact as boot/system drives than media drives.
> How are system boot times? Application launch times? Application calls to the OS or its toolbox for opening palettes, switching modes, importing, etc?
> What areas do you feel the speed boost is not as impressive? Things you though may be faster but aren't.
> Where are you keeping your paging file? Should be on an equally speedy separate drive for best performance.Â
> Chris MagidRTVF
> --- On Tue, 11/16/10, Rupert Watson <rupert@...> wrote:
>
> From: Rupert Watson <rupert@...>
> Subject: RE: [Avid-L2] Re: Preferred Symphony platform
> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, November 16, 2010, 5:11 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Â
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hmm, interesting.
>
>
>
> You didn't report on the important bit; have the editors
>
> noticed/commented on an improvement?
>
>
>
> Rupert Watson
>
>
>
> +44 7787 554 801
>
>
>
> www.root6.com
>
>
>
> From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
>
> Of blafarm
>
> Sent: 16 November 2010 23:05
>
> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
>
> Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Preferred Symphony platform
>
>
>
> I've been migrating most (8 as of last count) of the boot drives on my
>
> various W7 computers to SSD. But my W7 MC Z800 Workstation is the last
>
> to go. My principle reason for doing it last was to build confidence in
>
> the technology -- and because I'd rather deploy SSDs for applications
>
> where data read/writes cycles are not excessively dynamic.
>
>
>
> In the meantime, and just for shortform/online projects, I've been
>
> moving away from my 16TB CalDigit HDOne -- to a +/- 1TB SSD RAID0 which
>
> I put together with 4-OCZ Vertex drives using the internal Z800 Intel
>
> ICH10 controller mounted on the motherboard.
>
>
>
> The drives take up no additional space -- as they're mounted in the two
>
> empty 5.25 bays in the front of the machine -- using 2 HP Dual 2.5"
>
> drive bay kits -- and they produce no heat or noise.
>
>
>
> AJA System Test reports Write speeds at 639.2 MB/s and Read Speeds of
>
> 556.1 MB/s -- and they work quite well as my Avid MediaFiles drive.
>
>
>
> Of course, TRIM does not work behind RAID controllers -- but if you over
>
> provision the array by 25% (formating a 1TB array as 750GB) -- then
>
> Garbage Collection seems to work just fine. And when it stops working --
>
> you just have to Secure Erase the disks to revert them back to factory.
>
>
>
> It took many months of research to make this move, and frankly, I was
>
> tempted to just go with a PCIe-based SSD RAID solution -- which would
>
> have bypassed the entire 3G SATA bottleneck and the involvement of a 3rd
>
> party controller -- in my case, the Intel. This can be especially
>
> important -- as current generation RAID controllers frequently
>
> misinterpret SMART information emanating from SSDs -- which can lead to
>
> false reports of degraded drives or arrays. But, I'm happy for now.
>
>
>
> I'll eventually invest in the next gen of PCIe-based solutions -- and
>
> repurpose these four drives as boot drives for other machines.
>
>
>
> HTH
>
>
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com> ,
>
> Chris <chris_rtvf@> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > No. But I would love to try it. Would guess it could speed things up a
>
> great deal.
>
> >
>
> > May need to be on Win 7 to get TRIM support. Not sure if Vista or OS X
>
> does that.
>
> >
>
> > My understanding is that with TRIM to minimize the aging issues SSDs
>
> have as their memory is abused is SSDs have a duty cycle longer than
>
> regular drives.
>
> >
>
> > Anyone on list with SSD / Avid experiences to report ?
>
> >
>
> > Chris Magid
>
> > RTVF
>
> > Office- 214 350 7212
>
> > Cell---- 214 766 7212
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > On Nov 15, 2010, at 11:57 PM, "Rupert Watson" <rupert@> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Chris
>
> >
>
> > Out of interest have you experimented with putting in an SSD as a
>
> system drive on 64bit system with plenty of RAM?
>
> >
>
> > If you have, did it make a lot of difference?
>
> >
>
> > Rupert Watson
>
> >
>
> > +44 7787 554 801
>
> >
>
> > www.root6.com
>
> >
>
> > ________________________________________
>
> >
>
> > root6 ltd
>
> > Registered in the UK at: 4 Wardour Mews, London W1F 8AJ
>
> > Tel: +44 (0) 20 7437 6052
>
> > Company No. 03433253
>
> > www.root6.com
>
> >
>
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> >
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________________
>
> This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System.
>
> For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email
>
> __________________________________________________________
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
No comments:
Post a Comment