Wednesday, November 17, 2010

[Avid-L2] Re: Preferred Symphony platform

 

> You didn't report on the important bit; have the editors
> noticed/commented on an improvement?

FYI: It's just me using the machine.

As for "improvements" -- the benchmark numbers tell the whole story.

Achieving write speeds of 639.2 MB/s and read speeds of 556.1 MB/s -- with only four drives -- with drives that are completely immune to mechanical failure -- and with drives that make absolutely no noise and require no additional ventilation -- completely describes the value proposition.

On top of that, the advantages and positive impact of that kind of speed and throughput -- on scrubbing performance and the ability to playback multiple high-bitrate HD layers -- is exactly what you'd expect to find if you've ever cut using a high-end storage subsystem.

1TB is certainly not for everybody -- nor every project. But, for right now, it's a very sweet way to work if your projects are mostly short form. And as the 2TB (+) PCIe-based products become more competitively priced -- it opens the doors, a bit more, to a wider range of projects.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Rupert Watson" <rupert@...> wrote:
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> Hmm, interesting.
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> You didn't report on the important bit; have the editors
> noticed/commented on an improvement?
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> Rupert Watson
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> From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of blafarm
> Sent: 16 November 2010 23:05
> To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Preferred Symphony platform
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> I've been migrating most (8 as of last count) of the boot drives on my
> various W7 computers to SSD. But my W7 MC Z800 Workstation is the last
> to go. My principle reason for doing it last was to build confidence in
> the technology -- and because I'd rather deploy SSDs for applications
> where data read/writes cycles are not excessively dynamic.
>
> In the meantime, and just for shortform/online projects, I've been
> moving away from my 16TB CalDigit HDOne -- to a +/- 1TB SSD RAID0 which
> I put together with 4-OCZ Vertex drives using the internal Z800 Intel
> ICH10 controller mounted on the motherboard.
>
> The drives take up no additional space -- as they're mounted in the two
> empty 5.25 bays in the front of the machine -- using 2 HP Dual 2.5"
> drive bay kits -- and they produce no heat or noise.
>
> AJA System Test reports Write speeds at 639.2 MB/s and Read Speeds of
> 556.1 MB/s -- and they work quite well as my Avid MediaFiles drive.
>
> Of course, TRIM does not work behind RAID controllers -- but if you over
> provision the array by 25% (formating a 1TB array as 750GB) -- then
> Garbage Collection seems to work just fine. And when it stops working --
> you just have to Secure Erase the disks to revert them back to factory.
>
> It took many months of research to make this move, and frankly, I was
> tempted to just go with a PCIe-based SSD RAID solution -- which would
> have bypassed the entire 3G SATA bottleneck and the involvement of a 3rd
> party controller -- in my case, the Intel. This can be especially
> important -- as current generation RAID controllers frequently
> misinterpret SMART information emanating from SSDs -- which can lead to
> false reports of degraded drives or arrays. But, I'm happy for now.
>
> I'll eventually invest in the next gen of PCIe-based solutions -- and
> repurpose these four drives as boot drives for other machines.
>
> HTH
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> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> Chris <chris_rtvf@> wrote:
> >
> > No. But I would love to try it. Would guess it could speed things up a
> great deal.
> >
> > May need to be on Win 7 to get TRIM support. Not sure if Vista or OS X
> does that.
> >
> > My understanding is that with TRIM to minimize the aging issues SSDs
> have as their memory is abused is SSDs have a duty cycle longer than
> regular drives.
> >
> > Anyone on list with SSD / Avid experiences to report ?
> >
> > Chris Magid
> > RTVF
> > Office- 214 350 7212
> > Cell---- 214 766 7212
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> >
> > On Nov 15, 2010, at 11:57 PM, "Rupert Watson" <rupert@> wrote:
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> > Chris
> >
> > Out of interest have you experimented with putting in an SSD as a
> system drive on 64bit system with plenty of RAM?
> >
> > If you have, did it make a lot of difference?
> >
> > Rupert Watson
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