quick as possible and then spend a few days testing the workflow to
make the switch, and then spend a very long weekend thrashing this out.
I love my job. Really, I do.
thank you,
Jay
On Jan 4, 2010, at 7:29 PM, phillipsm wrote:
> I would not convert the project - I would start a new project that
> is 1080p/23.976. Funky things happen with ALE import/export when a
> project starts as one format, then changes to another.
>
> And to answer Dom's questions, yes, the edit rate is the same
> meaning there are 24 frames (23.976) of frames, but the way the
> master MOB looks at the clip is different - Only sequences when
> modified. You will get a "cannot capture NTSC clip in an HD project"
> or something to that effect. I have tried the creating a sequence
> (autoSequence) out of the source clips, modifying that, then
> recreating the source cips, but there is an issue with clips that
> are continuous...
>
> Your BWF's are fine. Just open those bins in the new 23.976 HD
> project but be sure to duplicate START into SOUND TC first. But you
> need to have a SoundRoll first... in that case, duplicate the
> filename into the SoundRoll...
>
> Like I said, it can be done, but is tedious. It is not just a
> project tab switch when dealing with 23.976/24 sources - especially
> AutoSync ones... And as I mentioned, whether the sequence will
> relink to both picture with tape sources, and audio from BWF. I
> would do a small 4-6 event sequence going through the above steps
> and see what happens.
>
> Michael
>
> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Jay Mahavier <jay_mahavier@...> wrote:
>>
>> Hmmm, that's a lot to digest in one sitting. I'll have to mull this
>> one a bit. But to give you more info
>>
>> Audio - Deva BWF base 30TC for the source.
>>
>> Video - Clips logged with Start and End at :00 when ever possible.
>> There are a handful of shots that don't fit this due to short pre-
>> roll
>> and post-roll. But very few. Really very few.
>>
>> So what you are saying is:
>> 1-dump all the media, vid and aud, but keep all the bins with master
>> clips
>> 2-convert project to 1080/23.976
>> 3-select the original audio master clips (offline) and batch import
>> them
>> 4-export the bins with the original video master clips to an ALE and
>> remove all the durations. And reimport and batch digitize those.
>> 5-reAutoSync all my clips
>> 6-sequences should relink to new media based on tape and tc
>>
>> Does that sound about right?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jay
>>
>> On Jan 4, 2010, at 5:18 PM, phillipsm wrote:
>>
>>> I wish it were that easy! The metadata and everything around it is
>>> based on a 30fps base and is part of the clip internal metadata
>>> (MOB, etc.). Just switching the project over to HD will not work for
>>> 23.976/24 - only for formats that are of the same timecode/edit rate
>>> like 25 and 30.
>>>
>>> The START and END need to be within the :00 - :23 frame range. While
>>> your :00 workflow works for the START, it may not be true for the
>>> END. Also durations would need to adjusted because of the 2:3
>>> pulldown relationship.
>>>
>>> You would need to export an ALE, adjust END to not be higher than :
>>> 23. Don't include "duration" as part of the ALE, that will be
>>> recalculated from the import. Go back to the original V only master
>>> clips.
>>>
>>> Sound TC from your BWF would need to be considered as well. What was
>>> the original timecode rate used in production? If you import those
>>> into a 23.976/24 project, the timecode will be recalculated to a 24
>>> frame source, but the original 30fps will be lost. If 30fps is the
>>> original rate, you are better positioned and halfway there. Keep
>>> your original BWF bins and import, make sure you duplicate START
>>> into SoundTC. The SoundTC continues to count as 30 even in a
>>> 23.976/24HD project, but this is how you will maintain the original
>>> TC and lists for later. Using The 30fps timecode in the START from a
>>> "project tab change" continues to count as 30, but with no
>>> consideration for pulldown - so EDL's will be off if START is used.
>>>
>>> Rebatch capture from the ALE, resync new subclips and your sources
>>> are fine... Sequences would need to be modified via the "modify
>>> command" then a relink done. Now... I have never tried the relink at
>>> the end to clips that are both tape based (picture) and import (BWF)
>>> so you may be entering new territory there... I remember this being
>>> done on "Gone Baby Gone" and it was painful.
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Dom Q. Silverio" <domqsilverio@>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Since they are the same frame rate,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just change the project format to 1080p/23.976 and batch digitize
>>>> away. The workflow is very similar to NTSC 30i to 1080i/59.94.
>>>>
>>>> Everything else will fall in to place.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dom Q. Silverio
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Jay Mahavier <jay_mahavier@>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Ok, I'm told that we have our DX upgrades on order. Once I get
>>>>> them
>>>>> in I'm going to want to move our current project from MXF 3:1 to
>>>>> DNxHD36. Now the project is NTSC/23.976/FilmMatchback. All shots
>>>>> were logged from DVCam downconverts of SR/23.976 camera tapes.
>>>>> Almost
>>>>> all or our clips were logged starting at the even second
>>>>> (xx:xx:xx:
>>>>> 00). All the clips are AutoSync to audio from the RAM disk from
>>>>> the
>>>>> DEVA. We already have sequences cut of a bunch of the material.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is batch digitizing those clips logged as SD into HD as easy as
>>>>> select
>>>>> and batch digitize? Or do I need to modify the master clips to be
>>>>> HD
>>>>> then batch digitize? Or do I need to export a ALE file and
>>>>> reimport
>>>>> it? Am I going to need to resync all my footage? Will the cut
>>>>> sequences relink and update?
>>>>>
>>>>> We will be moving from MC v3 to MC v4.
>>>>>
>>>>> If someone had suggestions or can point me to a link or a page
>>>>> in a
>>>>> manual I would really appreciate it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Jay
>>>>>
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