[Avid-L2] Re: Making the DX move - Just Prep

Why not finish it in SD as you've already started and then when finished do a traditional online in HD. What benifits in particular are you expecting from dnx 36. If you are working in a 16x9 mode with anamorphic downconverts I don't know what the benifit would be. If your working with letterboxed down converts then yes there will be issues of effect positioning etc... when translating to the HD online.

--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Jay Mahavier <jay_mahavier@...> wrote:
>
> But I need all the source material since we are not done with the
> edit. Yea, this upgrade is happening about 3 months later than it
> should. And I suspect that this move from SD to HD is going to get a
> bit painful. But I believe that the benefits are going to be worth it
> in the end.
>
> Thanks,
> Jay
>
> On Jan 4, 2010, at 7:06 PM, johnrobmoore wrote:
>
> > I'm confused too. The imported audio is the variable I have little
> > experience with. For the Video you can take a sequence cut in ntsc
> > 23.976 and convert it to HD 23.976 and this will modify the souce
> > code to 24 frame code the downconverts were made from. Then
> > decompose the sequence and recapture from the masters to dnx 36.
> > The issues of 30 fps based wave file imports from a Deva are unknown
> > and very scary to me. Mommy make all these scary time code monsters
> > go away!!!! If you need all the raw material that's a reason I
> > could see to go back to you original capture bins and modify those.
> > Please keep us informed on what seems to work Jay.
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Dom Q. Silverio" <domqsilverio@>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Michael
> >>
> >> I am missing something here. He is coming from 23.976 NTSC to
> >> 1080/23.976p @ DNX36.
> >> The frame count is the same.
> >>
> >> I think I misread something here.
> >>
> >>
> >> DQS
> >>
> >> phillipsm wrote:
> >>> I wish it were that easy! The metadata and everything around it is
> >>> based on a 30fps base and is part of the clip internal metadata
> >>> (MOB, etc.). Just switching the project over to HD will not work
> >>> for 23.976/24 - only for formats that are of the same timecode/
> >>> edit rate like 25 and 30.
> >>>
> >>> The START and END need to be within the :00 - :23 frame range.
> >>> While your :00 workflow works for the START, it may not be true
> >>> for the END. Also durations would need to adjusted because of the
> >>> 2:3 pulldown relationship.
> >>>
> >>> You would need to export an ALE, adjust END to not be higher than :
> >>> 23. Don't include "duration" as part of the ALE, that will be
> >>> recalculated from the import. Go back to the original V only
> >>> master clips.
> >>>
> >>> Sound TC from your BWF would need to be considered as well. What
> >>> was the original timecode rate used in production? If you import
> >>> those into a 23.976/24 project, the timecode will be recalculated
> >>> to a 24 frame source, but the original 30fps will be lost. If
> >>> 30fps is the original rate, you are better positioned and halfway
> >>> there. Keep your original BWF bins and import, make sure you
> >>> duplicate START into SoundTC. The SoundTC continues to count as 30
> >>> even in a 23.976/24HD project, but this is how you will maintain
> >>> the original TC and lists for later. Using The 30fps timecode in
> >>> the START from a "project tab change" continues to count as 30,
> >>> but with no consideration for pulldown - so EDL's will be off if
> >>> START is used.
> >>>
> >>> Rebatch capture from the ALE, resync new subclips and your sources
> >>> are fine... Sequences would need to be modified via the "modify
> >>> command" then a relink done. Now... I have never tried the relink
> >>> at the end to clips that are both tape based (picture) and import
> >>> (BWF) so you may be entering new territory there... I remember
> >>> this being done on "Gone Baby Gone" and it was painful.
> >>>
> >>> Michael
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Dom Q. Silverio" <domqsilverio@>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Since they are the same frame rate,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Just change the project format to 1080p/23.976 and batch digitize
> >>>> away. The workflow is very similar to NTSC 30i to 1080i/59.94.
> >>>>
> >>>> Everything else will fall in to place.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Dom Q. Silverio
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Jay Mahavier <jay_mahavier@> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Ok, I'm told that we have our DX upgrades on order. Once I get
> >>>>> them
> >>>>> in I'm going to want to move our current project from MXF 3:1 to
> >>>>> DNxHD36. Now the project is NTSC/23.976/FilmMatchback. All shots
> >>>>> were logged from DVCam downconverts of SR/23.976 camera tapes.
> >>>>> Almost
> >>>>> all or our clips were logged starting at the even second
> >>>>> (xx:xx:xx:
> >>>>> 00). All the clips are AutoSync to audio from the RAM disk from
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> DEVA. We already have sequences cut of a bunch of the material.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Is batch digitizing those clips logged as SD into HD as easy as
> >>>>> select
> >>>>> and batch digitize? Or do I need to modify the master clips to
> >>>>> be HD
> >>>>> then batch digitize? Or do I need to export a ALE file and
> >>>>> reimport
> >>>>> it? Am I going to need to resync all my footage? Will the cut
> >>>>> sequences relink and update?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We will be moving from MC v3 to MC v4.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If someone had suggestions or can point me to a link or a page
> >>>>> in a
> >>>>> manual I would really appreciate it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Jay
> >>>>>
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> >> --
> >> Dom Q. Silverio
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
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