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etc.
when doing the set bin display and breakdown of the clips, the above would be one clip and not the orignal two. If you are not seeing that, then you should be fine. Just make sure your BWF timecode is correct - if tracked in the SoundTC in the NTSC project, then it will be fine in the HD project.
Michael
--- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, Jay Mahavier <jay_mahavier@...> wrote:
>
> Make sequence in NTSC/23.976 project of all of a days shots.
> Open bin with sequence in 1080/23.976 project.
> Modify sequence to be 1080/23.976.
> Set bin display to Show Reference Clips.
> It then displays all the master video clips, all master audio clips
> and all the synced subclips associated with that sequence.
> I then select the master video clips and batch digitize.
> I then select the master audio clips and batch import.
> And from what I can tell everything is cool. No audio drift.
>
> I then have Master Clips and SubClips that I can then copy to needed
> Scene and Day bins. In my book that counts as moving the project. I
> have all my master clips and all my subclips and all my sequences.
> Because based on the test I did the cut sequences from the editor will
> relink after they are modified. It looks like locators and stuff are
> gone on the master clips and subclips, but that's a small price to pay
> for me. And I'm who matters, right?
>
> I don't have to worry about keycode because this was shot on SR.
>
> I did duplicate the audio tc to the Aux1TC in the SD project before
> even doing the sync work.
>
> I'm really not seeing any drawbacks to this yet. Yet.
>
> Jay
>
> On Jan 10, 2010, at 3:34 PM, phillipsm wrote:
>
> > Sequences aren't the issue - the original question was taking an
> > entire project over with original sources. The modify command was
> > designed to work with sequences. The one question I do have is what
> > is the rate of your BWF files in the START when you step through it?
> > What does it roll over at? etc. Did you do a duplicate START to
> > SoundTC before the process started?
> >
> > The issue with taking original master clips directly is that there
> > is no conversion on the metadata - the media will play fine.
> > Creating a sequence of original master clips in their entirety "may"
> > work as long as the new START is not the previous END as you would
> > find in a film to tape transfer (or overlaps). What used to happen
> > is after the sequence to set bin display trick, master clips would
> > be one long one, and not the original master clips - this created
> > havoc with metadata fields like KeyKode etc. When you did set bin
> > display, where the clips you recaptured the subclip or the original
> > master clip?
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups .com, "j_mahavier" <jay_mahavier@>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok, so what am I doing wrong? Because this is seeming to be a lot
> >> easier than I was lead t - o believe. So before our new gear shows
> >> up I got my hands on a MojoDX and hooked it up to my box running
> >> MCv3.1.
> >>
> >> I did my regular log and digitize into the SD NTSC/23.976p
> >> project. I imported my 29.97/BWF audio files. I marked them up
> >> and synced. Then using those subclips I cut a short sequence
> >> together. I put that sequence in it's own bin.
> >>
> >> I then quit out of MC and took the SD media off-line. I then
> >> launched MC and opened a HD 1080/23.976 project. Opened that bin
> >> with the sequence in it. Selected and modified the format of the
> >> sequence to 1080/23.976. I then chose Show Reference Clips for the
> >> bin view. I chose the master clips and Batch Captured. I then
> >> Batch Imported the audio master clips. Result was the subclips and
> >> sequence are now on-line in HD, all in sync and frame accurate to
> >> the SD cut.
> >>
> >> I was told it would not be this easy. What am I doing wrong? I
> >> know it probably sounds asinine for me to say that, but really,
> >> what am I missing? What is going to go wrong with this method?
> >> How am I about to totally screw myself by doing this?
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >> Jay
> >>
> >> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "johnrobmoore" <bigfish@> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I'm confused too. The imported audio is the variable I have
> >>> little experience with. For the Video you can take a sequence cut
> >>> in ntsc 23.976 and convert it to HD 23.976 and this will modify
> >>> the souce code to 24 frame code the downconverts were made from.
> >>> Then decompose the sequence and recapture from the masters to dnx
> >>> 36. The issues of 30 fps based wave file imports from a Deva are
> >>> unknown and very scary to me. Mommy make all these scary time
> >>> code monsters go away!!!! If you need all the raw material that's
> >>> a reason I could see to go back to you original capture bins and
> >>> modify those. Please keep us informed on what seems to work Jay.
> >>>
> >>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Dom Q. Silverio" <domqsilverio@>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Michael
> >>>>
> >>>> I am missing something here. He is coming from 23.976 NTSC to
> >>>> 1080/23.976p @ DNX36.
> >>>> The frame count is the same.
> >>>>
> >>>> I think I misread something here.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> DQS
> >>>>
> >>>> phillipsm wrote:
> >>>>> I wish it were that easy! The metadata and everything around it
> >>>>> is based on a 30fps base and is part of the clip internal
> >>>>> metadata (MOB, etc.). Just switching the project over to HD will
> >>>>> not work for 23.976/24 - only for formats that are of the same
> >>>>> timecode/edit rate like 25 and 30.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The START and END need to be within the :00 - :23 frame range.
> >>>>> While your :00 workflow works for the START, it may not be true
> >>>>> for the END. Also durations would need to adjusted because of
> >>>>> the 2:3 pulldown relationship.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You would need to export an ALE, adjust END to not be higher
> >>>>> than :23. Don't include "duration" as part of the ALE, that will
> >>>>> be recalculated from the import. Go back to the original V only
> >>>>> master clips.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sound TC from your BWF would need to be considered as well. What
> >>>>> was the original timecode rate used in production? If you import
> >>>>> those into a 23.976/24 project, the timecode will be
> >>>>> recalculated to a 24 frame source, but the original 30fps will
> >>>>> be lost. If 30fps is the original rate, you are better
> >>>>> positioned and halfway there. Keep your original BWF bins and
> >>>>> import, make sure you duplicate START into SoundTC. The SoundTC
> >>>>> continues to count as 30 even in a 23.976/24HD project, but this
> >>>>> is how you will maintain the original TC and lists for later.
> >>>>> Using The 30fps timecode in the START from a "project tab
> >>>>> change" continues to count as 30, but with no consideration for
> >>>>> pulldown - so EDL's will be off if START is used.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Rebatch capture from the ALE, resync new subclips and your
> >>>>> sources are fine... Sequences would need to be modified via the
> >>>>> "modify command" then a relink done. Now... I have never tried
> >>>>> the relink at the end to clips that are both tape based
> >>>>> (picture) and import (BWF) so you may be entering new territory
> >>>>> there... I remember this being done on "Gone Baby Gone" and it
> >>>>> was painful.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Michael
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --- In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, "Dom Q. Silverio"
> >>>>> <domqsilverio@> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Since they are the same frame rate,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Just change the project format to 1080p/23.976 and batch digitize
> >>>>>> away. The workflow is very similar to NTSC 30i to 1080i/59.94.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Everything else will fall in to place.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Dom Q. Silverio
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Jay Mahavier <jay_mahavier@>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Ok, I'm told that we have our DX upgrades on order. Once I
> >>>>>>> get them
> >>>>>>> in I'm going to want to move our current project from MXF 3:1 to
> >>>>>>> DNxHD36. Now the project is NTSC/23.976/FilmMatchback. All
> >>>>>>> shots
> >>>>>>> were logged from DVCam downconverts of SR/23.976 camera
> >>>>>>> tapes. Almost
> >>>>>>> all or our clips were logged starting at the even second
> >>>>>>> (xx:xx:xx:
> >>>>>>> 00). All the clips are AutoSync to audio from the RAM disk
> >>>>>>> from the
> >>>>>>> DEVA. We already have sequences cut of a bunch of the material.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Is batch digitizing those clips logged as SD into HD as easy
> >>>>>>> as select
> >>>>>>> and batch digitize? Or do I need to modify the master clips
> >>>>>>> to be HD
> >>>>>>> then batch digitize? Or do I need to export a ALE file and
> >>>>>>> reimport
> >>>>>>> it? Am I going to need to resync all my footage? Will the cut
> >>>>>>> sequences relink and update?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We will be moving from MC v3 to MC v4.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If someone had suggestions or can point me to a link or a page
> >>>>>>> in a
> >>>>>>> manual I would really appreciate it.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>> Jay
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------
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> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ------------------------------------
> >>>>>
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> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Dom Q. Silverio
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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