Re: [Avid-L2] New title tool

Hi Sol, I used to be an editor too, you could / should have rembembered it.

Of course, it is a HUGE PITA, but really, pick your poison.

Do you edit in Premiere or Resolve?

For revising, that is where Adobe is REALLY good, as you can script.

(And I can bitch way more about Avid than you can, pixel shifting positions and stuff…)

Now I'm off to get food, do some decent cooking.

Learn some scripting to make your life easier, really, it WILL help / pay off. (I made a sorta kinda living out of it.)

Bouke / edit 'B

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On 7 Feb 2023, at 17:30, Sol Fischler via groups.io <sol.fischler=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Remember when editing was easy?  And you could focus on the art rather than the technology?

So, why not use AE for all your titles -- ?

Because opening a window in the application you're working in is SO much easier than exporting a frame for color and spacial reference, going into a different program to work, then exporting, and then importing...   make sure your raster sizes and your alpha channel settings are correct, after importing everything else from all the other programs you're using...

...and then god forbid you have to revise those titles...

Yes, I use AE for titles -- sometimes, and usually it's because I'm integrating elements or templates already created in AE....  but please don't tell me that all that extra energy is in any way a useful or time-saving exercise when one button-click is all that's needed for 99% of my titling.

And I'm finally embracing Marquee for more involved titling.  Same one-click access with more stylistic capability.

BTW -- I'm still on 2018, so Title Tool/Marquee is still an option for me.  I pity you guys from whom I'm hearing nothing but horror stories...

Editing should be instinctive, not a minefield.

-- Sol

On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 09:22:13 AM EST, bouke <bouke@editb.nl> wrote:

Why bother with some title tool, while AE seems to be the gold standard for end credits for quite some years.

You can use AE for all your titles, it's scriptable, so you could alter the look of eg all your lower thirds quite easily.

(And for that matter, all other assets if you set up your work a bit logical (My Vulcan part._

(I'm experience "nIb'poH" at the moment, my Klingon side.)

Be happy with DNxHD, as it supports straight alpha, as ProRes only has stupid HUGE files to support alpha.

Besides, Adobe supports alpha even in Jpeg.

Pick your poison...

 

Bouke / edit 'B

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On 6 Feb 2023, at 15:00, Tim Selander <selander@tkf.att.ne.jp> wrote:

Sort of answered my own question. New Blue was in the effects pallette, but was apparently not yet installed.

Not that installing it was useful or anything. It crashes Avid everytime I try to use it -- either promoting an old title or creating a new one.

This may be the thing that pushed us away from Avid for good....

Tim Selander
Tokyo, Japan


On 2023.02.06 21:59, Tim Selander wrote:

John
I have just made the jump to M1 Macs and the new OS, and have discovered to my horror that the old Title tool does not work. Huge impact on our workflow.
Anyway, sorry to be reviving an old thread, but you write

I've found New Blue does a better job promoting Title Tool to New Blue than Title Tool to Titler+

How to you promote old titles on old sequences to New Blue? I can't find it. And just for everyone's edification, promoting a Japanese text title with Titler+ DESTROYS it -- the kanji turns to gobbledygook that is impossible to return back to kanji. Avid -- SERIOUS #$0)(% SCREWUP!!
Any way, if you, John, or anyone can tell me how to promote a title in New Blue, I really need to know! The "Promote Titles" option in the right-click menu only gives an option for Titler+. TIA
Tim Selander
Tokyo, Japan
On 2020.07.04 12:02, John Moore wrote:

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Lou I agree but I have to say I'm in cabin fever mode.  My experience with Titler+ is it's just plain bad.  They have turned simple tasks into an arduous nightmare.  The vocabulary is strange and non intuitive.  All I want is a text field but there are layers and IIRC objects.  The selection process is foreign to the traditional Title Tool even though much of it looks similar it works very differently.  And when I say works I've never used it successfully so I opted to New Blue for very basic stuff. It's astonishing but in my limited tasks I've found New Blue does a better job promoting Title Tool to New Blue than Title Tool to Titler+.  That in and of itself is astonishing.  Don't get me wrong New Blue promotion of Title Tool is not great but it gives me a fighting chance.

The biggest thing I just learned a week ago is that there is a green circle around the play button in new blue and it indicates that the title has been cached.  It can take several minutes for the cache to complete for something like a roll.  If you close new blue before the cache is complete it will continue to cache in the background but it caches slower.  This is why it took me four hours to add one line to a credit roll.  I didn't realize it was stuck caching so for 5 or more minutes I'd just get the scrub to refresh window and no amount of scrubbing would refresh it. So I kept quiting Avid thinking it was a ram or vram issue.  New Blue reacts very slowly on my MacPro mid 2012 with 64 GB of ram and GTX-680 with 2 GB vram.  I'm wondering if a GTX-780 with 6GB vram would improve performance.  I have and expansion chassis with two Titan X GPUs but I don't think New Blue uses them.

So this is me, the guy who hates fonts and misses title tool, telling you in my small world I've found New Blue less painful for the simple things I've done.

On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 04:27 PM, Lou Wirth wrote:

    I just have to say the new Avid MC title tool in 2019.12 is
    the worst editing tool I have ever come across.  It is
    absolutely useless and I now get anxiety just knowing I have
    to go to it even just to make a slug title in place of
    material to come.  Forget doing any tilting for finish.  And
    no I don't want to use NewBlue and yes I know AE and
    Photoshop are there but come on…really.   Please bring back
    that old title too.   Creating a title in this is funky
    enough but just simply grabbing and moving the title is
    nearly impossible!  I peck away and get little boxes around
    letters, one letter, two letters, the the entire box expands
    and changes the font size simply but trying to move it.
      Oops, now it just crashed and I lost the last 15 minutes of
    work.
    OMG Avid.  Fix this disaster!!
    Lou

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