Monday, September 7, 2020

Re: [Avid-L2] 29.97 and HD / RANT

Bouke, the last thing anyone wants to do is pick a fight with you.

But in the 20 plus features I've cut, and the ten I've post-supervised, for the sound deliverables turned over here in L.A., speed is always an attendant issue.

In the words of Chief Joseph, I will fight no more forever.

DD


On Sep 7, 2020, at 10:59 AM, bouke <bouke@editb.nl> wrote:

Since I'm the one who added RANT to this thread, and I'm also the one who is working to make audio post easier on deliverables:
You're talking nonsense.
For sound, there is no difference for any framerate.
(Unless these is a speed change, that will never happen unless it's an archive project for an archaic format.)

Feel  free to pick a fight.


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On 07 Sep 2020, at 19:23, David Dodson <davaldod@gmail.com> wrote:

I don't know about statistically true, but anecdotally from personal experience, with the many features I've done, including all of the foreign language movies, including all of the Eastern European/Russian-language films, most all of which were mixed here in L.A., the sound post people always deliver two distinct sets of audio deliverables — 24fps and 23.976 fps (and of course in 5.1, in LtRt, etc., etc., plus M&E's, etc.).

All of these movies were shot at 24fps, including the Russian-language films, as that's how they're exhibited in Russian cinemas, in spite of their 25fps PAL TV standards.

DD


On Sep 7, 2020, at 10:17 AM, Job ter Burg (L2) <Job_L2@terburg.com> wrote:

I have no idea if this is statistically true, but my BD collection has tons of titles, both at 24.000 and at 23.976. Typically, if a movie is shot and posted at 23.976, the video master used for the BD release will be 23.976. If the movie is shot and posted at 24.000, the video master will be 24.000, and the BD release will be 24.000. The latter has been the case for 90% of the stuff I worked on for the past decade.

Bottom line: they are two different playback rates, and therefore require different audio deliverables to match.

On 4 Aug 2020, at 20:57, Marcel B. <bncrcaxlr@gmail.com> wrote:

Blu-rays are predominantly mastered at 23.98




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