On 15 Apr 2020, at 19:03, Christopher <avid@digitalbuddy.co.uk> wrote:I've been on the Avid-L2 for as long as it's been around, and I've learned so much from the valuable contributions made here, but I've had enough of this.Cheerio, good luck, and stay safe!Chris PitbladdoOn 15 Apr 2020, at 17:55, bouke <bouke@editb.nl> wrote:Oh patty, you did read my original post and grasped 'something'?Again, go away, you are boring / insulting / stupid.On 15 Apr 2020, at 18:51, Pat Horridge <pat@horridge.org.uk> wrote:Off Topic.Not everyone gets poorer during times like this. Amazon owner Jeff Bezos is $24billion better off.Maybe some of the mega rich could help at this time rather than toss aside the old and vunerable.Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos grows fortune by $24bn amid coronavirus pandemicPat HorridgeFrom: Avid-L2@groups.io <Avid-L2@groups.io> on behalf of bouke via groups.io <bouke=editb.nl@groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 5:42:55 PM
To: Avid-L2@groups.io <Avid-L2@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Animated PNGs?Hey Roger,We are old friends, I have no beef with you.You did not start this madness, I did.(For a reason that no-one seems to want to understand.)You all stay safe in a world where you don't have an income but 0.2 % of the people that were supposed to die get another few months.(Luckily this comes cheap, so, no impact at all on the rest of your life!)Oh dear, what did I start? I agree that editing is a craft, and I miss the days of cutting on film (so, yes, I'm an old fart) but I took to Avid enthusiastically back in 1992. As a film editor I didn't mix the sound, create the graphics or grade the picture. Once I moved away from offline editing and Avid got to a point where we could get away with finishing on a computer, I drifted into corporate edits and had to learn to finish shows by myself and learn Photoshop and After Effects and eventually how to author DVDs with menus (good fun). Since then I've got my head round Resolve and FCPX and a bunch of other stuff, so yes, we need a varied skillset. Now, I teach at a university so I hve to (and enjoy) trying to keep up with new formats and delivery requirements. Hence my original question. I seem to have found a flavour of animated PNG that resists the embrace of most of the programs I use. If I HAD to incorporate it in an Avid edit, I'd follow Bouke's suggestions. But I don't so I will keep an eye on updates and work on finishing the update to my Avid book. Once the bike club magazine is put to bed, of course. Oh - another skill - page layout and delivery for print. Stay safe, all.With Best Wishes, Roger Shufflebottom +44 7973 543 660On Wednesday, 15 April 2020, 16:28:03 BST, Pat Horridge <pat@horridge.org.uk> wrote:Interestingly David I don't consider myself an editor. I can edit. I'm an Avid certified instructor and have been an ACSR
I know a lot of technical stuff even FFMPEG and spend my time helping and supporting editors.
They have the craft skills and the eye.
As I said the best editors I know have little practical or technical skills. I think it often comes down to specialism.
The better an editor is the more people around them shield them from tasks that take them away from the actual task of cutting a show.
The less of the technical stuff they do the less they learn and the less they can do.
Pat Horridge
From: Avid-L2@groups.io <Avid-L2@groups.io> On Behalf Of David Dodson via groups.io
Sent: 15 April 2020 16:23
To: Avid-L2@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Animated PNGs?I've edited nearly twenty feature films. Budgets ranging from one million to 65 million. The movies have been on thousands of screens around the world.
But I couldn't do FFMPEG if my life depended on it (actually, I probably could, but I can't now). But I think I'm an editor.
The point is, editing is storytelling. It's writing. And it's a technical craft. The more you know about all of it, the easier your life will be.
BUT… having deep technical knowledge does NOT make you a great editor. I know amazing editors/storytellers who have workable knowledge of their NLE, but couldn't tell you the difference between USB2 and USB-C. But they're masters.
Why in the world would someone declare that a particular piece of semi-arcane tech skill is defining of what makes an editor?
On Apr 15, 2020, at 8:17 AM, Pat Horridge <pat@horridge.org.uk> wrote:
Be interesting to know how many (or few) editors are confident with tools like FFMPEG
Its implied that not being so makes you not an editor.
I'd not agree with that. Some of the best editors I've worked with struggled to turn on their Avid.
But their eye and editing skills ensued they sat in the editor seat and not me (who could turn on their Avid plus re-install the hardware and software)
Editing is a craft skill that needs other around them to handle the technical aspects. Know them both and you are blessed.
That's why most Post houses have technical operators, ingest department, file delivery departments and the like.
So editors can get on with the jo of editing.
Pat Horridge
From: Avid-L2@groups.io <Avid-L2@groups.io> On Behalf Of bouke via groups.io
Sent: 15 April 2020 16:05
To: Avid-L2@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Avid-L2] Animated PNGs?Hi Karl, answers inline.
On 15 Apr 2020, at 16:39, Karl Knowles <tech@knowlesvideo.com> wrote:
An alternate opinion.
Always appreciated!
Editing is the art of constructing a finished piece from (in our field) unique individual elements of visual imagery and sound.Agreed, but...
File conversion is not editing.No, but get real, we're responsible for getting the stuff workable in 99.9% of the cases.
File conversion is no different from film or tape format conversions performed by a technician in a lab or tape room - which in no way, shape, form or interpretation of the term is editing.Agreed, but, what is your point? 'Someone' has to do it, if there is no other, it's 'our' job.
Discussion of editing is very rare on this forum. Style and technique are hardly ever mentioned.My beef, the IMPACT is not discussed. Remember Rodney King? Just one IO, no more editing, and that resulted in deaths.
Same is going on right now.
I've observed most discussion here centers on finding a solution to a technical problem. Think "my hot splicer splices aren't holding" or "the pilot-tone on his Nagra was off" but in today's terms.I'm missing your frustration here, please elaborate. What I do get is that you are an old fart, older than I am.
Bouke
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Thursday, April 16, 2020
Re: [Avid-L2] Animated PNGs?
Edit at home.
With Best Wishes, Roger Shufflebottom +44 7973 543 660
On Wednesday, 15 April 2020, 18:12:34 BST, bouke <bouke@editb.nl> wrote:
Sorry I've caused this.
Now, do the group a favour, define 'stay safe' in your words.
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