Saturday, February 22, 2020

Re: Reality or ??? > RE: [Avid-L2] OT: When did the U.S. get too backlit?

I didn't realize there were CCD chips that early.  I googled to remind myself it was Saticon tubes in the HL-79 and later Diode Gun Saticons.  Just the name "Diode Gun Sat" is so much cooler than Log-C, V-Log or S-Log.  There ain't no Log gonna touch my Diode Gun Sat!!!  Oh wait I smell the tar pit it's time for me to go home.


On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 10:21 PM, Keoni Tyler wrote:
You know you are fortunate in our field when you instantly know THOSE premium model numbers.
 
I would like to extend on John's observation, and how about just saying "Lit?"  And I don't mean the Gen Z or Gen Y Millennials' slang for "that was cool, rad, dyno-mite!"
 
It started with RCA Broadcast's implementation of putting the first CCD chips into their portable camera in 1980, and when that national political convention had the lights go out, NBC could still make out a relatively clear picture in darkness.
 
I had heard stories of 40s, 50s and 60s TV talent "melting" under TV studio lights for a black and white picture, and so when technology allowed things to go the other way, that was great.
 
Until...
The day a set design company in 2005 installed the new stage for a division of Fox Sports where I was Sr. Editor.  Walking onto the set, you felt you were nearly in a dark parking garage.
 
I thought I got there too early and no one turned on the grid.  I turned to the monitor and the set was lit like the morning sun was right on it, and couldn't believe my eyes that I was in that same set.
 
That was the day I never wanted to run a studio camera in that situation again, if asked to.  If the monitor can't match our what our naked eyes see side-by-side...
 
 
-Keoni Tyler
Kitchen Table Editorial | Hollywood
 
 
 
 
 
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-------- Original message --------
From: John Moore <bigfish@pacbell.net>
Date: 2/22/20 20:08 (GMT-08:00)
To: Avid L-2 Groups IO <avid-l2@groups.io>
Subject: [Avid-L2] OT: When did the U.S. get too backlit?
 
Back when I started editing we had incredible camera crews of an ENG style.  They were amazing what they could do with an HL-79 Iki and BVU-200.  After shooting endless travel specials across the Globe one of our premiere camera persons came back once and said, "That whole country was too backlit!"  We had a good laugh at the time.
 
Tonight working on an exterior scene I'm tempted to say the U.S. has now fallen into the same category and it is clearly too backlit.  Don't they have meters for this is the field or a magic scrim they can use.  There's only so much lift I can do!!! 
 
So clearly what was true in the 80's in foreign lands has come home to Southern California.  How's the backlit on the East Coast?  It might be time to move.  ;-)
 
John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@pacbell.net
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