Okay you and Mark have filled in some gaps. Is it at all possible that when I entered the info in iTunes at home when I imported the CD a second time that that info would have been submitted to gracenote automatically, perhaps through a default preference setting?
Maybe it all boils down to my home network was overloaded when I first loaded the CD or it was renegotiating the isp connection. I have lousy dsl. This all points to the existence of some universal CD ID number/code that is unique to a particular CD or does it?
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Yes. Anyone can submit CD info to Gracenote
On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 5:33 PM Mark Spano cutandcover@... [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Gracenote is a real thing. A giant database filled with the names and metadata for lots of albums.iTunes has a preference "Automatically retrieve CD track names from internet". It works in collaboration with Gracenote. You can also Get Track Names manually if that checkbox is not checked.If your disc isn't recognized by Gracenote, you can manually enter the information and submit it to Gracenote via iTunes. They take some time to process submissions.Does this mean that by manually adding the info on my home system it magically sent that data to the grace note data base so everyone gets the info I entered? That seems unlikely given I wouldn't think they would not want just anyone to add the to the database. It seems more likely that perhaps my internet was down when I first loaded the disk.So now I'm curious how this gracenote database gets populated with information? Given my CD seems to be of an independent nature put out by the band itself would a small band be able to access the gracenote database to enter their own info? I am under the impression that there is a data file on music CD that contains track info etc... If that is the case maybe it's just iTunes accessing that data but it doesn't explain why I didn't get it on my home system.
---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <damon@...> wrote :No John, just your business name is crazy. ;)I've dealt with the same issues when attempting to populate album covers after importing a music CD into iTunes. It's hit or miss in my experience. Too bad iTunes doesn't have an MCSTATE or SITE SETTINGS to delete and get things moving again.Damon Clausseneditor.storyteller.nerdOn Dec 11, 2018, at 1:41 PM, John Moore bigfish@... [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:I got a CD of a relatively obscure band in LA at their show. When I put the CD in mac pro mid 2012 OS 10.12.6 the CD imported into iTunes with no track names. I fiddled around in iTunes and got to the CD info window where I was able to manually add Artist name, Track Names and Album name. I deleted my first import with generic track 01 etc... and no info. I imported the manually named CD and all is well at home.Today at work I loaded the CD into my old 2009 macbookpro OS 10.7.X To my surprise in iTunes the CD showed all the proper info. I thought maybe because it knew my library from home it got the info that way. I then took the CD to another station that I don't work on. We loaded the disc to the desktop and it said track 1 etc... for file names. When iTunes was launched the finder folder then changed to show the correct names of the tracks and iTunes new all the info.Now I'm wondering why on my home computer the CD info didn't appear the first time. A little googling and according to Apple support the CD info comes from the internet. There is mention of a gracenote database. So this leaves me wondering why I got no info the first time on the home mac. Perhaps my internet was down at the time I first loaded the CD or did my manually entering the data somehow back feed into the internet database? At first I thought it might be related to me being logged into my apple account but when I went to the second computer at work launching iTunes, which wasn't logged into my account, populate iTunes and even the finder with the correct info.Am I crazy? Who is controlling this under the hood flow of music metadata? Curious how this all works.John Moore Barking Trout Productions Studio City, CA bigfish@...
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