Friday, March 10, 2017

Re: [Avid-L2] Re: [Editing-List] Semi-OT: Double-system or Sound on Camera?

 

I prefer to only have 1-2 audio tracks on source clips when I'm cutting, but still want to be able to easily access ISO mics if needed. 

So I like to have the following recorded on the camera media: 1 track from a camera mic (for emergency syncing, or if sound isn't rolling on something critical) and a scratch mix from the sound recordist on a 2nd track.  Then separate audio files, with some kind of timecode jam-sync between audio recorder and camera.  I ask for slates and claps too, but don't see them too often!

I mostly do long-form doc.

Cheers,
--Michael Brockington

On 2017-03-09 2:18 PM, Mark Spano cutandcover@gmail.com [Avid-L2] wrote:
 
I feel like camera manufacturers understood a few years ago that onboard audio in multiple tracks was important and a potentially game changing time saver in post. So they added it. How many times do I see HQ audio from camera files? Nearly none of the time. I think I'd prefer it - no extra syncing work in post (theoretically). But what do I get so often it makes me insane? Separate audio with ZERO sync points. No matching code, and no clap/slate. This is a rampant problem that I'm amazed people who call themselves professional get away with. So if there's any hope of a trend of good quality audio in-camera, I am all for it.

On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 2:15 PM, Jim Feeley jfeeley@gmail.com [Editing-List] <Editing-List@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Hey Everyone,

I'd love to hear your perspective as editors/post on this.

I do a fair amount of work as a location sound mixer. I'm thinking of buying a new hop to send audio from my bag to camera. But the thing is, I'm doing fewer jobs where we send high-quality audio to the camera. A lot more scratch track and/or timecode (or timecode & sync). I don't do much narrative and advertising work where I expect double-system. More news mag, documentary, and mid/high-level corporate (and I don't do much reality/unscripted, either). I wonder if my experience is anomalous, or if it matches what you all see. And what do you prefer?

Are you seeing more of some sort of double-system audio in the doc/public-affairs/corporate work you do?

How do you prefer to get and match audio? Sound on Tape (card/camera/whatever)? Scratch track on camera & separate audio files? TC or TC+Sync & separate audio files? Scratch & TC on camera & separate audio? Other?

Let's assume (since I own) Sound Devices audio recorders. I.e, top quality...not little Zooms or something.

And what do you expect sound on camera to increase or decrease in the coming years?

Thanks!

jim feeley
pov media
word image sound



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