Mike
On Apr 18, 2016, at 1:44 PM, John Pale pale.edit@gmail.com [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
I'm a long time (since 1997) user and I like the menu re-organizations, even though it breaks some muscle memory. It really does appear that to me they gave it some thought and things make more sense, as far as how they are grouped. Some other items have been "promoted" as their role has become more important (e.g. moving Source Settings from the middle of the pack to the top of Contextual Menus). Of course you can't please everyone, and some of this is a bit subjective, but overall I like what they are doing. Avid's been around a long time, so they are always faced with pissing off old time users when they change things, but if they are to have any future they have to appeal to new users too. If you ever have to teach anyone how to do anything with Avid, you understand the importance of having the UI make some sense in how it's organized. Over the years, I have been on the receiving end of a lot of blank stares and incredulous chuckles explaining the "Avid Way" to new users and assistants. Avid is perceived as cumbersome, slow and difficult to learn to a great many young editors. Just cleaning up the interface is actually a huge help in this regard. There's more work to be done, but this is a good beginning. It's also a help, as more editors are bouncing between several NLE's. Even if you temporarily lose your marbles, as this 49 year old editor is becoming more prone to doing..when everything is well organized, you can find your way pretty quickly.
On Monday, April 18, 2016, Roger Shufflebottom rogershuff@yahoo.co.uk [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Or right-click on a monitor . . .With Best Wishes, Roger Shufflebottom +44 7973 543 660
From: "Roger Shufflebottom rogershuff@yahoo.co.uk [Avid-L2]" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
To: "Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>; "jb30343@windstream.net" <jb30343@windstream.net>
Sent: Monday, 18 April 2016, 9:40
Subject: Re: RE: [Avid-L2] Re: Can't afford engineers here...
File>Output or R-click>Output sub menu. I, too like the new logic. I have Export programmed to Shift+E anyway!With Best Wishes, Roger Shufflebottom +44 7973 543 660
From: "jb30343@windstream.net [Avid-L2]" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com; bigfish <bigfish@pacbell.net>
Sent: Monday, 18 April 2016, 0:27
Subject: Re: RE: [Avid-L2] Re: Can't afford engineers here...
Export is gone too. This is the same mentality as getting rid of the weightlifter. My conclusion is that Avid thinks we all edit at about three cuts per hour and search through all the menus every time we do anything. I assume they no longer have any actual editors in decision making roles. JB
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Sunday, April 17, 2016, 5:02 PM -0500 from Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>:
For the past week I've spent some testing time on 8.5.1 and 8.4. Today it dawned on me one of the problems I'm seeing could be directly related to this thread. In my recent test when I jump on 8.5.1 and right click on a clip to relink or transcode or get to source settings etc... it seems the entire pulldown menu order is flipped or at least in a completely upside down feeling order compared to Avid 8.4 and all Avid's before. I use relink all the time and now it's at the bottom of the right click when it use to be nearer to the top the top IIRC. Consolidate and transcode use to be in the top 3 and now it's near the bottom etc... I may not have the exact location correct but it feels virtually upside down from my past decades on Avid.
Now this isn't the end of the world but it strikes me as the kind of programming changes you get when you outsource software development and enhancement to 3rd party companies that don't have a long history with the piece of software they are modifying. It also smacks of programmers that aren't sympathetic to the operators needs and concerns. I'm not saying I know this for a fact but WTF? There is no reason to change the order of functions of the right click menu. Adding new features to the list is fine but changing the basic order is just a big FU to the user base IMHO. If I could see any reason behind the reordering than I wouldn't be spouting of but I read it as new programmers who now coding but not editing. At the very least you don't reprogram a Typewriter Program and move the "E" key for no reason.
Can anyone shed any light on why the list order is so drastically different in 8.5.1?
---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <bigfish@...> wrote :But this seems like Avid themselves are using another company to program the Avid software and work on development. AMA was assigned to the camera manufacturers because of the constant changes in codecs etc... The avid core software is what it sounds like is being farmed out to this company. Perhaps I'm not completely understanding the relationship it just seems less than optimal for the core software of the NLE.
---In avid-l2@yahoogroups.com, <avid@...> wrote :Dave SprakerPrincipal, spraker.tvNorthwest Territory Manager, Western Rep Associatesdave@...
(503) 897-0250From: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 2:37 PM
To: Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Avid-L2] Re: Can't afford engineers here...Does this mean that Avid is outsourcing development of Avid software? I skimmed a bit of the link and there is collaboration between the two companies. It would seem a daunting task to keep all the software developers on the same or similar page when everything is in house. Spreading that across to another company would seem to add to confusion and mistakes, but that is certainly not my area of expertise.
---In avid-l2@yahoogroups.com, <tcurren@...> wrote :It's nice when the folks you outsource to sponsor your parties. :-/
Posted by: Mike Parsons <mikeparsons.tv@gmail.com>
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