This IS the Avid L2: Re: [Avid-L2] Outputting Direct Audio to Same As Source QT from Avid?

Thursday, October 29, 2015

Re: [Avid-L2] Outputting Direct Audio to Same As Source QT from Avid?

John,

Not for nothing, but if ALL of the advice you get every time you talk about QT Ref is to mixdown, isn't that the solution? Wasn't it Einstein who said that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result?

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 5:32 PM, bigfish@pacbell.net [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

---In avid-l2@yahoogroups.com, <domqsilverio@...> wrote :
"Most editors here will mixdown audio and video then use Same as Source with Direct Out audio."

As you may have read in my myriad of posts on this and related subjects I'm not a fan of doing mixdowns. I in no way say that because it's correct, it's just problematic with my hour long shows with multiple versions. I always put a safe color limit over the sequence which I force the render to a particular DNX or ProRes codec so I alleviate having differing codecs in the file export. That mostly accomplishes what a video mixdown does. Interestingly in the Catapult delivery guide they say to never use video filler and always slug in some media in the same codec as the timeline. I think that relates to the problem of a same as source exporting in multiple codecs over the course of the file. Again I think that's another reason for video mixdowns or in my case the safe color render to a particular codec.

My understanding is that Avid has multiple files for the various resolutions for media offline depending on the resolution of a particular timeline it will use the appropriate media offline file. Is the same true for video filler? I've always acted as if it is and have never slugged in media in video filler sections. So far I've not had an issue related to that as far as I know. This Catapult guide makes me want to rethink that. As per the guide I cut in a black title at the sequence codec rendered to the same codec. Does anybody know what is happening under the hood when there is video filler in an Avid timeline?

---In avid-l2@yahoogroups.com, <domqsilverio@...> wrote :

I'm not sure about the filler question but we rarely use QT Ref for output. Most editors here will mixdown audio and video then use Same as Source with Direct Out audio.

Dom Q. Silverio

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 4:43 PM, Dave Hogan mactvman@... [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

In reply about using "Filler" in QT reference outputs...

I have ALWAYS done a video and audio mixdown of all tracks to create reliable QT reference files out of AVID.

I believe there is too much inconsistency both in implementation and parsing of QT Reference files to expect them to work with anything other than the program that made them...and not even then on occasion.

Dave Hogan
Burbank, CA