This IS the Avid L2: Re: [Avid-L2] Cine Deck does insert Edits? Somebody Pinch me

Friday, April 17, 2015

Re: [Avid-L2] Cine Deck does insert Edits? Somebody Pinch me

If I am reading the Cinedeck website correctly then Clipster / Fuze has been able to do the baseband insert into a file thing for years and years. You just need to be in VTR emulation mode. We have been using it in Telecine suites forever.
What you can't do on a Clipster in VTR emulation mode is insert just video or audio - can you do audio dropins on a CineDeck in a pre-existing closed file. That *would* be new and impressive. The other stuff DVS had down over a decade ago…

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On 16/04/2015 23:41, "Jeff Sengpiehl jeff@chainsawedit.com [Avid-L2]" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

> You simply re-wrap a pro-res recorded elsewhere- and then you can punch into it- figure 12 minutes to re-wrap an hour long prores.
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>The Clipster/Fuze doesn't have punch in- you put a fix in manually with your DPX timeline, then re-export. If a Rhode schwartz product is dealing with a non-dpx, you need to re-ingest and re-export the whole shebang. This is where Cinedeck
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>On Apr 16, 2015, at 3:02 PM,
>bigfish@pacbell.net <mailto:bigfish@pacbell.net> [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>The Cine Deck is even hipper
> than the "Hipster" app Greg H. used at Fremont street to guide me to a "Sloppy Weiner" at the BunkHouse. While QT Pro has this ability you have to flatten it out, resave, to end up with a single file. That takes time, time I don't waste when inserting on
> tape. The Cine Deck will punch in an insert but still it's a single file ready to go. This is what I was told when I asked if it was using some AS-11 type of pointers trickery to accomplish the insert. So I edit in my change into the file that comes back
> with QC fixes or just creative changes and I'm done just like tape. That's the way I'm understanding it. As far as this being easy then why isn't everybody doing it? Venice can't right now so I was told at Rhode Schwartz. Bottom line a deck like file recorder
> will save me the 3 hours ish of rebaking a long form show every time there is a change.
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