This IS the Avid L2: Re: [Avid-L2] OT Capture tapes with discontinuous timecode

Tuesday, March 24, 2015

Re: [Avid-L2] OT Capture tapes with discontinuous timecode

Nigel,

You don't mention what format the tapes are.

Options:

- If this is an 'offline' rather than the 'online' you could always
capture wild with BITC.

- If you have access to a time machine something like an IDOL edit
lister would pull off an edl of the tapes from the LTC or VITC. Or if
you change the blanking on the Avid capture and edl from the master
sequence (like what we did with VHS/Umatic offlines)

- As you mentioned digitise the LTC (onto a third track) then I believe
the avid could read audio timecode?

- Could you also capture the tapes with the LTC going into the BOB and
use that as timecode source?

- Capture each the tapes in chunks. Put them on a timeline with all the
relevant clips laid out at the right time code, so the gaps are black
gaps. (I'm assuming it is a concert and someone was pressing
start/stop). Then export this timeline as a file and all the clips will
be at the right timecode in each clip.. Will generate a lot of media if
there are big gaps and it's shot over more than an hour or two

- Failing that get an assistant/work experience spod/or advertise on
facebook for someone to do a long and arduous process of doing this very
manually :-)

More ideas as they come to me and they will, I used to spend far too
long digging clients out of holes like this!

Cheers,

Marcus Dawson

On 23/03/2015 13:48, 'Nigel Gourley' avid-l@outpostfacilities.co.uk
[Avid-L2] wrote:
>
>
> But none of these solutions actually do it!..
>
> I want one file only that is a match of the tape in its entirety
> including the source timecode. I can't have multiple files and I can't
> have one file with the wrong timecode.
>
> I suspect it's not possible but I wanted to check.
>
> Nige
>
> *From:*Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com]
> *Sent:* 23 March 2015 13:11
> *To:* Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Avid-L2] OT Capture tapes with discontinuous timecode
>
> Jamsync no problem.
>
>
> On 23 Mar 2015, at 7:40 pm, Steve Hullfish Steve@veralith.com
> <mailto:Steve@veralith.com> [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
>
> Yes. I got it slightly backward. It's been over a decade since I've
> captured from tape now. The loss of time for pre-roll is on initial
> capture instead of batch capture. Either way you'd lose a few
> seconds due to pre-roll. Of course if this was linear editing, you'd
> still lose those same seconds unless you went for non-timecode
> control track pre-roll (WOW am I dating myself!)
>
> Steve
>
> On Mar 23, 2015, at 7:32 AM, Roger Shufflebottom
> rogershuff@yahoo.co.uk <mailto:rogershuff@yahoo.co.uk> [Avid-L2]
> <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
>
> I'm talking about the first capture, not a subsequent attempt at
> recapture.
>
> With Best Wishes,
> Roger Shufflebottom
> +44 7973 543 660
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:*"Steve Hullfish Steve@veralith.com
> <mailto:Steve@veralith.com> [Avid-L2]" <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>>
> *To:*"Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>"
> <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>>
> *Sent:*Monday, 23 March 2015, 11:45
> *Subject:*Re: [Avid-L2] OT Capture tapes with discontinuous timecode
>
> That's kind of what I said.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Mar 23, 2015, at 6:44 AM, "Roger
> Shufflebottomrogershuff@yahoo.co.uk
> <mailto:rogershuff@yahoo.co.uk>[Avid-L2]"
> <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
>
> This will work but you'll lose as many seconds as your
> pre-roll is set to (is that English)? On a break, the system
> backs up to the start of the next good section of continuous
> TC and starts a pre-roll.
>
> With Best Wishes,
> Roger Shufflebottom
> +44 7973 543 660
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:*"Steve HullfishSteve@veralith.com
> <mailto:Steve@veralith.com>[Avid-L2]"
> <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>>
> *To:*"Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>[Avid-L2]"
> <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>>
> *Sent:*Sunday, 22 March 2015, 18:11
> *Subject:*Re: [Avid-L2] OT Capture tapes with discontinuous
> timecode
>
> Depends on your set-up I guess and your ultimate need for
> archiving or your desire for an "automatic" solution.
>
> Back when I was cutting a lot of documentary footage, we
> certainly used the real timecode from tapes to capture
> directly into Media Composer. I haven't had a deck hooked up
> to a personal MC in - I don't know - a decade, but if you've
> tried this and failed, it could be that you need to go to
> your Settings>Capture Settings and mark the check box for
> Capture across timecode breaks. Make sure you've got the TC
> track selected in the Capture tool and Avid will grab the
> correct timecode as part of the file.
>
> The trick with this method is that if you EDIT with this
> material and you use footage from the first few seconds,
> then BATCH CAPTURING those clips will be difficult because
> on batch capture then Avid will need to have continuous
> timecode for 3-6 seconds before the first frame you need.
> But the INITIAL capture of discontinuous timecode should
> include virtually every frame on the tape.
>
> Steve
>
> On Mar 22, 2015, at 12:53 PM, 'Nigel
> Gourley'avid-l@outpostfacilities.co.uk
> <mailto:avid-l@outpostfacilities.co.uk>[Avid-L2]
> <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
>
> Really how do you think you would do that?
>
> N
>
> __
>
> *From:*Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>[mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com]
> *Sent:*22 March 2015 17:42
> *To:*Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>[Avid-L2]
> *Subject:*Re: [Avid-L2] OT Capture tapes with
> discontinuous timecode
>
> Media Composer?
>
> Steve
>
> On Mar 22, 2015, at 12:39 PM, 'Nigel
> Gourley'avid-l@outpostfacilities.co.uk
> <mailto:avid-l@outpostfacilities.co.uk>[Avid-L2]
> <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
>
> We have a lot of tapes that we need to convert to
> files and they have discontinuous timecode. We want
> the capture to match the tape so just one clip per
> tape, but we want the timecode as well.
>
> We could capture the timecode as an audio track but
> we'd prefer to have the file timecode match MXF
> preferably but QT at a push.
>
> Anyone found capture software that does this?
>
> NIge
>
>
>
>