This IS the Avid L2: Re: [Avid-L2] OT - QC monkeys attacks again. Help!!!

Thursday, November 20, 2014

Re: [Avid-L2] OT - QC monkeys attacks again. Help!!!

Just to let you know.

I asked to the QC operator to send me a valid 29.97i sample file comverted from a 23.976 master and what I received was a file with "proper" 2:2:2:4 cadence.

I you ask me that's not right, but this is what they are asking for.

Now I have to figure how to generate that pattern with Telestream Vantage, because that's what we are using to do the converision.

Thank you all for the comments.

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On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 7:20 PM, bigfish@pacbell.net [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Tell the client it's not two shots in the same frame, it's two unique Progressive Segmented Frames. I would guess that this has more to do with standards conversion concerns. Mike P posted a while back how soft cuts became the rage because they were introduced by standards converters of the day. Not accepting 2:3, not 3:2, pull down is just un American. ;-) It's the judder of freedom that the world craves right? ;-)

---In Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com, <jeff@...> wrote :

We conform 23.976 - but have had clients insist that for their 1080i 59.94 delivery that they will not accept any 'mess frames' where 2 shots share the same frame.
We essentially had to re-conform and apply 3:2 pulldown to each shot individually. (after all the graphics are baked in)

Interestingly enough, this was also related to international re-distribution.
Make sure to charge extra for it. It's certainly not a standard request.

Jeff

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On Nov 18, 2014, at 5:24 PM, 'Dom Q. Silverio' domqsilverio@... [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

We just had a broadcaster instruct the online editor that all frame rate conversions must be done using "duplicated fields" - no interpolated frames or 2:3 pulldown for the international deliverables. Keep in mind, the series was primarily shot 23.976p, edit in 23.976p and will be delivered in 1080i/59.94. Now every non 29.97 footage has a stutter in it because all motion effect is set to duplicated frames.

Go figure.

Dom Q. Silverio

On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 5:17 PM, tcurren@... [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

First off, the QC guy is an idiot. Has he ever sen film transferred to video?

That said, if you wanted to not have blended fields at cuts (which I believe statistically would be 20 percent of them), you could take the 23.98 sequence to a 30 frame project. Avid would 3:2 to each shot independent of all other shots. probably a lot of rendering involved, and it would be improper for a 3:2 sequence, but it sounds like it would pass this moron.