Wednesday, October 15, 2014

Re: [Avid-L2] Does Avid have native support of Cannon C300, Sony F5 and F55?

 

C300 comes in through XF AMA. I've seen it show up in the bin as both XF MPEG-2 and XDCAM MPEG-2, so I don't think there's a real difference.

On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 5:38 PM, bigfish@pacbell.net [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Does this mean Avid is treating it like XDCam 50Mbps MPEG2 or is it working Natively through what I see in the chart:

Canon XF

  • 50 Mb/s, 4:2:2

The wording on the Cannon ama site  say:

XF300

High Definition Camcorders



I see that there are Camcorders like the the XF300 then there are EOS Cinema Camers like the C300.  Are they both shooting the same format or is the XF plugin just for XF footage and the C300 sneaks in as XDCam.  Good to know it works I'm just trying to sort out the particulars.  Does the C300 ama through the XF plugin of the XDCam route?




---In avid-l2@yahoogroups.com, <cutandcover@...> wrote :

You can consolidate C300 - it's MPEG2 50 Mbps like XDCAM. And the Sony cams shoot XDCAM and XAVC, but XAVC can only be consolidated if it is XAVC HD. If it is XAVC 2K or 4K, it can't (yet).

On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 4:31 PM, John Moore bigfish@... [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

I was just in a meeting with clients where Cannon C300 and Sony F5 and F55 Native support came up.  They are trying to emulate their former FCP 7 workflow where they could just sling ProRes all around and have no transcoding.  I suggested working native as most of their footage is XDCam and XDCam EX.  They will also be using Cannon C300s and some Sony F5 and maybe F55 footage.  I know there are ama plugins for the later but will Avid handle them natively?  I looked up the Avid Codec Support page, see below but I don't see C300 listed or F5/55.  During the meeting one of the engineers googled on his phone and said that the Cannon C300 is essentially like the Sony EX format, or one of the XDCam flavors so it would work native with Avid.  Can anyone confirm or deny this about the C300 format working natively with Avid.

The clients are trying to avoid the time of transcoding so I suggested consolidating the native format compatible files which should take roughly the same time it takes to copy the file which should be about the same as their ProRes workflows they had with FCP 7.  Should we be looking into anything else to speed up their current transcoding everything workflow?

Native codec support

Avid DNxHD 444

  • All DNxHD 444 Formats

Avid DNxHD


Avid compressed SD resolutions

  • AVR (playback only)
  • 15:1s, 4:1s, 2:1s
  • 20:1, 10:1, 3:1, 2:1
  • 35:1p, 28:1p, 14:1p, 3:1p, 2:1p
  • 4:1m, 10:1m, 3:1m(p), 8:1m(p)

Avid proxy formats

  • Interplay MPEG-2 proxy, MPEG-4 proxy, 720p H.264 proxy (transcode service only)

Canon XF

  • 50 Mb/s, 4:2:2

DV

  • DV25 / DVCAM (25 Mb/s): 4:1:1 NTSC, 4:1:1 PAL, 4:2:0 PAL, 24p
  • DV50 (50 Mb/s)

HDV

  • JVC HDV (19Mb/s)—720p
  • Sony HDV (25Mb/s) 1080@24p/25/50i/59.94i
  • Canon HDV 1080 at 24p/50i / 59.94i
  • Native project formats: 1080i/59.94, 1080i/50, 720p/23.976 (with support for 24p material), 720p/25, 720p/29.97, 720p/50, 720/59.94
  • Capture over IEEE-1394, edit, playback, export to file without timecode (export not for 24p material)

Ikegami GFCAM

  • GFCAM 50 Mb/s
  • GFCAM 100 Mb/s

JVC ProHD

Microsoft VC-1

  • VC-1 (edit/playback on Intel Macs only)

Panasonic AVC-Intra

Panasonic DVCPRO (SD)

  • DVCPRO—25 Mb/s
  • DVCPRO50—50 Mb/s

Panasonic DVCPRO HD

  • DVCPRO HD—100 Mb/s
  • AVC-Intra (baseband capture over HD-SDI requires AVC-Intra encoding module with Avid Nitris DX)
  • Native project formats: 1080i/59.94, 1080i/50, 720p/59.94, 720p/50, 720p/25, 720p/23.976

ProRes

  • ProRes encode (Mac only) and decode
  • Full metadata support

Sony XDCAM (SD)

  • DV—25 Mb/s
  • IMX30—30 Mb/s
  • IMX40—40 Mb/s
  • IMX50—50 Mb/s
  • Full ancillary data support through AMA

Sony XDCAM EX

  • MPEG—25 Mb/s CBR
  • MPEG—35 Mb/s VBR
  • Full ancillary data support through AMA

Sony XDCAM HD

  • MPEG—18 Mb/s VBR
  • MPEG—25 Mb/s VBR
  • MPEG—25 Mb/s CBR
  • MPEG—35 Mb/s VBR
  • MPEG—50 Mb/s CBR
  • MPEG-4 Proxies
  • Full ancillary data support through AMA

 
John Moore
Barking Trout Productions
Studio City, CA
bigfish@...



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