Wednesday, June 18, 2014

Re: [Avid-L2] HP DreamColor question

 

Thank you Bruno and Greg. I'm sure that info is somewhere in the user
manual but I missed it and probably wouldn't have figured it out on my own.

If I go to a 59.94i project and set the Avid video output tool settings
to HDMI Color Space (Convert to RGB) and Output True Progressive and
crossconvert the output to 720p59.94; I can watch the same timeline
simultaneously on a Sony BVM CRT monitor (HDSDI) and the LP2480zx
(HDMI). Unfortunately, I don't have the calibration gizmo for the
DreamColor. Still, the images are much closer than I would have
expected. Quoting Montgomery Burns, "I know what I hate and, I don't
hate this". If it had a HDSDI input and accepted psf I'd probably be
gluing it to my console so that my boss couldn't move it to its intended
place. --J.B.

Greg Staten gregstaten@gmail.com [Avid-L2] wrote:
>
>
> What Bruno says is correct regarding the LP2480zx. The color
> management engine cannot handle YCbCr or interlaced input. When one of
> those signals is input the color management engine must be repurposed
> to either do colorspace conversion or deinterlacing.
>
> Note that this is not the case with the new Z27x. It can accept either
> YCbCr or interlaced and fully color manage it. Unfortunately, though,
> we cannot accept the PsF output from the Nitris DX. Note that
> officially HDMI does not support PsF-structured signals.
>
> -greg
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Bruno Mansi bruno@mansi.demon.co.uk
> <mailto:bruno@mansi.demon.co.uk> [Avid-L2] <Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Avid-L2@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
>
> Yes, what you're you're seeing is exactly what happens when you
> don't feed the monitor with the correct signal.
>
> In a nutshell, the Dreamcolor engine (which manages all the
> colourspace conversions) only works if you provide it with a RGB,
> true progressive signal (ie. 25p 30p etc) via its HDMI or
> Displayport connectors. Interlaced, Psf or YCrCb signals disable
> the engine and so the monitor displays the full gamut of the
> panel. You will need a converter box that can convert the output
> from the Nitris into an acceptable format for the Dreamcolor
> display. The AJA HDP2 is one that is commonly used for this
> application. Beware of converter boxes that claim to do the same
> thing (such as those offered by Blackmagic), as you must make sure
> that the converter will output progressive RGB even if the input
> is interlaced. Many boxes won't do this.
>
> For a full, detailed report I'd suggest you look at this article
> on Creative Cow, which goes into much more detail.
>
> http://library.creativecow.net/articles/garchow_jeremy/HP_DreamColor_CRT_Replacement.php
>
> Bruno
>
>
>
> On 18/06/2014 17:59, John Beck jb30343@windstream.net
> <mailto:jb30343@windstream.net> [Avid-L2] wrote:
>>
>> I have a HP LP2480zx display to play with for a few days. If I
>> connect
>> it to the HDMI port on my notebook I can set the color space
>> setting on
>> the monitor to any of its settings.
>>
>> When I connect it to the HDMI output of the Avid Nitris DX the color
>> space on the monitor switches to "full" and all the other
>> selections are
>> grayed out. The same thing happens in I connect the monitor via
>> analog
>> component. Am I missing something obvious or is their no way to
>> change
>> this monitor's color space setting when it is connected to a Nitris?
>> Many Thanks. --J.B.
>>
>
>
>
>
>

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